[arista]

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[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

If you follow the abuse that JK gets its quite appalling

its horrific

JK Posts on X today:

Once again,
@HumzaYousaf
makes his absolute contempt for women and their rights clear. Women were
excluded from his nonsensical hate crime law, now he introduces a 'misogyny
law' designed to also protect men.

Trans-identified men have sent violent threats to women but the likes of Beth
Douglas (attached) now receive double protection from Yousaf: for his so-
called gender identity, and for also being, in the eyes of the Scottish
government, a woman.




https://english.elpais.com/internati...vernment.html#

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…women haters come in all shapes and sizes and all politics and all religions and all social media platforms etc…?…wherever we may go, we’ll find them…?…

It's basically Snow White and Prince Charming's "I'll always find you" dialogue from Once Upon A Time, but instead of it being about romance, it's instead about hatred for women.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Yet another terrorist not being labelled a terrorist because of his skin colour

It is odd why someone that's murdered six people and attempted to murder even more people, isn't being labeled as a Terrorist.

In my view, it's textbook Terrorism.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I think that's the point though and where people get distracted - it's not that he wasn't mentally unstable, mentally stable people don't go on killing sprees for any reason, (yes LT - including religious dogma).

But when people are mentally unstable and "not in their right mind" that is the EXACT time that religious (Jihadi) or cultural (murderous incel) ideologies can creep in and take hold. When people's psychology is unstable it'll try to latch onto something stable. Ideologies being pushed by large numbers of people seem stable, and that's how they "get" people. It doesn't really matter what the ideology is. Anyone heavily involved in an ideology is going to fall into one of two categories - either they were at one point a vulnerable individual susceptible to being indoctrinated and manipulated, OR they are a "pusher" of the ideology using it to their own ends and for their own benefit (vast majority of terrorist leaders have a political goal, they are NOT doing it in the name of religion... and with folks like Andrew Tate the motivation is even more banal. Money.)

Tbh, I can't really disagree with you.

[Ammi]

Sydney mall attack: 'Bollard man' who confronted knifeman offered citizenship by Australian prime minister…


A Frenchman who confonted the Sydney shopping centre attacker - earning the nickname "Bollard man" - has been offered Australian citizenship.

Damien Guerot used a bollard to try to stop the killer from hurting more people during Saturday's attack at the Westfield Shopping Centre in Bondi Junction.

Joel Cauchi, 40, fatally stabbed six people and injured 12 others, including a nine-month-old baby, before he was shot dead by a police officer.

Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese hailed Mr Guerot's "extraordinary bravery" and said he was welcome to stay in the country "for as long as you like".

After the attack, Mr Guerot had told local news networks he was on a work visa set to expire within a couple of months.

"I say this to Damien Guerot, who is dealing with his visa applications, that you are welcome here," Mr Albanese told a press conference on Tuesday.

He added: "This is someone who we would welcome becoming an Australian citizen, although that would of course be a loss for France."


…full article…

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/sydney-mal...101200861.html

[arista]

[Sydney mall attack: 'Bollard man' who confronted
knifeman offered citizenship by Australian prime minister…

A Frenchman who confronted the Sydney shopping
centre attacker - earning the nickname
"Bollard man" - has been offered
Australian citizenship.]


Good move by Anthony Albanese
the Australian Prime Minister.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

It is odd why someone that's murdered six people and attempted to murder even more people, isn't being labeled as a Terrorist.

In my view, it's textbook Terrorism.

Killing people, even in numbers, isn't automatically terrorism.

Depends on whether or not he was driven by an ideology.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Killing people, even in numbers, isn't automatically terrorism.

Depends on whether or not he was driven by an ideology.

Anything we call terrorism has likely been done for religious reasons.

But this is actually something pretty new. I’m down with calling these people terrorists when they are fuelled by ideology online. It won’t seem the same to a lot of people because they will only see acts of destruction in the name of a so called religion as terrorism

And I can understand that. I think what most people need to do these days is chill tf out and not care so much about other peoples opinions

[Livia]

He killed five women and a security guard who presumably intervened, and he stabbed a baby. He purposefully targeted women. Sounds like a terror attack to me.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

Anything we call terrorism has likely been done for religious reasons.

But this is actually something pretty new. I’m down with calling these people terrorists when they are fuelled by ideology online. It won’t seem the same to a lot of people because they will only see acts of destruction in the name of a so called religion as terrorism

And I can understand that. I think what most people need to do these days is chill tf out and not care so much about other peoples opinions

Yep agree, this incel movement is definitely an ideology as well

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Killing people, even in numbers, isn't automatically terrorism.

Depends on whether or not he was driven by an ideology.

There are countless examples of these attacks with abundant evidence that they are ideology-based (computer equipment seized showing that the people involved have been viewing or were members of online groups with extreme views) -- unfortunately they are still not recognised as a very real, clear and dangerous ideology with significant aspects of indoctrination and the attacks are filed under "individual personal motives non-political/mental illness".

When there's evidence that the person involved has been part of online groups with extreme ideas the attacks should absolutely be classed as terrorism. The challenge seems to be getting people in power to accept that it's actually happening. That redpill/blackpill ideology is at this point a pseudoreligion with HUGE membership, filled with violent intent, and multiple examples of real-world violence.

[Soldier Boy]

Here's a very telling statistic:

When there's a school shooting in the US, the person involved is far, far more likely to be a white teenage male with heavy use of "certain" reddit/4chan groups, than they are to be affiliated with any religion. It's the vast majority at this point.

[Ninastar]

School shooters just need to be shot on site. Don’t care how awful that sounds, but they don’t deserve life. But yeah, these websites and cultures online are absolutely disgusting and honestly just encourages them. I’d be cool with them being labelled terrorists too

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

He killed five women and a security guard who presumably intervened, and he stabbed a baby. He purposefully targeted women. Sounds like a terror attack to me.

Very True Livia.

[parmnion]

Too many violent computer games for the young minds in America.. The thrill of the kill in the game is making far too many want to experience that thrill in real life.

And this mall knifman sounds like a closet case to me, probably blames women for his hidden gayness.

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Too many violent computer games for the young minds in America.. The thrill of the kill in the game is making far too many want to experience that thrill in real life.

And this mall knifman sounds like a closet case to me, probably blames women for his hidden gayness.

Anything to distance it from being a bog standard angry white straight man eh Parmy.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Anything to distance it from being a bog standard angry white straight man eh Parmy.

Not at all, Its my opinion that you are all wrong about his sexuality. I am allowed that...surely!

[Ninastar]

Gun violence is very active in all races here though. The shootings/fights that happen where I live are almost always black on black crime/gang related.

It’s not seen as a school shooting though as it’s not multiple people killed.

Different cultures have different beliefs on guns here and it’s literally all kinds of walks of life. I have super close liberal friends who are pro gun and I have conservative friends that will absolutely not allow guns into their lives at all

The media is always going to act like we are the most awful stupid country of all time but really, most people get along great. Most of this racial war stuff is just created to further divide people. It’s also the same with lgbt stuff too