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Old 19-09-2008, 10:01 AM #26
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If you don't have anything ORIGINAL to say, don't post! It's so annoying scrolling through all of these "me too" posts.

ANYWAY, I don't think the population is too big yet, but if it reaches that point, families should be encouraged to have only two kids, though it shouldn't be a law.
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I dont have a problem with families that have more than 2 children unless they dont lounge on the state and have more kids to get more money.

I myself have 4 kids living at home, 2 from my partner pervious relationship, one from mine and we also have a baby together. I was raise also in with 4 kids.
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Markymark, you said.

"The main reason for our increasing population is immigration."

Can I ask where you got this information, as the last available government figures (2006) do not agree with you.

Births: 690013
Immigration: 565000
Mean immigration taking into account people leaving the UK: 185000
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Markymark, you said.

"The main reason for our increasing population is immigration."

Can I ask where you got this information, as the last available government figures (2006) do not agree with you.

Births: 690013
Immigration: 565000
Mean immigration taking into account people leaving the UK: 185000
Birth rate doesn't cause the population to rise, natural increase does. Natural increase is birth rate - death rate. Besides, you don't actually believe the government figures on immigration, do you?

Figures from CIA:

Birth rate: 10.65 births/1,000 population (2008 est.)
Death rate: 10.05 deaths/1,000 population (2008 est.)
Natural increase: 0.60/1,000 population
Net migration rate: 2.17 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2008 est.)
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the worlds population is getting out of control. we need child policys.
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Only the third-world.
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Theres two in mine xD

But what about the families that have 1?

A family that has 3 makes up for that loss of one .. x
Its more difficult than that :P lol
I think on the easy side of things xD

We did it in Geography last year and thats what we got told xD

Apparently my 2020 the population will rise by 3 million :O!
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If you don't have anything ORIGINAL to say, don't post! It's so annoying scrolling through all of these "me too" posts.
People can post what they want if their opinion is the same or different to others
So shut up and stop telling people what they can post
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I'm a third child, so I can't agree with that article!

Also, it's from the Daily Mail, which instantly sets me on guard. Frankly if people can't afford to have children or don't have the means to look after them, then they shouldn't have them. Just my opinion.

Anyway, the elderly outnumber the young at the moment.
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the worlds population is getting out of control. we need child policys.
Again - in the UK, the elderly outnumber the young. People are having less children than years ago. People are living longer. What do you suggest we do - control the population by killing off the elderly?!
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the worlds population is getting out of control. we need child policys.
Only the third-world.
but its not posible to conroll the third world population.but it is posible to controll the westren world population.if we dont do it no one will.
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im from a family of 6 and proud of it !
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"Britain's high birth rate is a major factor in the current level of climate change". Possibly the stupidest statement I've heard this year. What high birth rate?! It's positive yes, but high, no chance. The main reason for our increasing population is immigration.

This has got nothing to with pollution and climate change. The Optimum Population Trust are a bunch of lunatics with an agenda, their policies remind me of Hilter somewhat, and the Chinese policy of course. We're constantly fed exaggerrated BS about how climate change will destroy the Earth by so many people.
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"Britain's high birth rate is a major factor in the current level of climate change". Possibly the stupidest statement I've heard this year. What high birth rate?! It's positive yes, but high, no chance. The main reason for our increasing population is immigration.

This has got nothing to with pollution and climate change. The Optimum Population Trust are a bunch of lunatics with an agenda, their policies remind me of Hilter somewhat, and the Chinese policy of course. We're constantly fed exaggerrated BS about how climate change will destroy the Earth by so many people.
Daily Mail reader, perchance?
I don't read newspapers. I don't swing either way politically. Tree-hugger, perchance?
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the worlds population is getting out of control. we need child policys.
Only the third-world.
but its not posible to conroll the third world population.but it is posible to controll the westren world population.if we dont do it no one will.
But it doesn't need controlling. It is possible, we could drop a bomb on Africa. That wouldn't be ethical though, neither is telling people how many babies they should have.
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the worlds population is getting out of control. we need child policys.
Only the third-world.
but its not posible to conroll the third world population.but it is posible to controll the westren world population.if we dont do it no one will.
Sigh.

Yes, it may be possible, but it's un-necessary. I'll say it again - the elderly are outnumbering the young at the moment. People are having less children (in the UK) than in years gone by. The population does not need controlling.
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"Britain's high birth rate is a major factor in the current level of climate change". Possibly the stupidest statement I've heard this year. What high birth rate?! It's positive yes, but high, no chance. The main reason for our increasing population is immigration.

This has got nothing to with pollution and climate change. The Optimum Population Trust are a bunch of lunatics with an agenda, their policies remind me of Hilter somewhat, and the Chinese policy of course. We're constantly fed exaggerrated BS about how climate change will destroy the Earth by so many people.
Daily Mail reader, perchance?
I don't read newspapers. I don't swing either way politically. Tree-hugger, perchance?
Not at all, I'm a conservative. I just find the claim that immigration is the main cause of our rising population to be absurd; as Nurse57 pointed out with some facts.

That, along with the skepticism regarding climate change, led me to draw comparisons between your views and those of the Daily Mail, that is all.

[Hey to Ruth btw, haven't seen you around in a while!]
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I am not sure how this is true when all we hear about at the moment is the ever ageing population that the UK has. So now we have too many old people and too many babies?
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"Britain's high birth rate is a major factor in the current level of climate change". Possibly the stupidest statement I've heard this year. What high birth rate?! It's positive yes, but high, no chance. The main reason for our increasing population is immigration.

This has got nothing to with pollution and climate change. The Optimum Population Trust are a bunch of lunatics with an agenda, their policies remind me of Hilter somewhat, and the Chinese policy of course. We're constantly fed exaggerrated BS about how climate change will destroy the Earth by so many people.
Daily Mail reader, perchance?
I don't read newspapers. I don't swing either way politically. Tree-hugger, perchance?
Not at all, I'm a conservative. I just find the claim that immigration is the main cause of our rising population to be absurd; as Nurse57 pointed out with some facts.

That, along with the skepticism regarding climate change, led me to draw comparisons between your views and those of the Daily Mail, that is all.

[Hey to Ruth btw, haven't seen you around in a while!]
And I gave facts that proved I was right, you obviously aren't educated on the subject of demographics. What I said was fact, nothing to do with my opinion on immigration. A certain amount of immigration is vital to stop the population ageing too much. Nurse told us the birth rate, which is meaningless on its own. Countries like Germany and Italy would actually have declining populations if it wasn't for immigration.

I do have skepticism about climate change, but only about its extent and consequences, I'm not saying there's no climate change at all.

Edit: Here's more evidence. Net migration has been the primary cause of population increase for the last 10 years, and that's just the migration we know about.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?ID=950
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Hi Shaun - nice to see you again!
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