[survivorfan]

Jeff and jordan and clueless and only still in the house becuase America shifted the power and gave Jeff a Freebie Coup power which led to Natalie's allie and potential final two housemate Jessie evicted.

Chima the HOH at the time got p****d off and never recovered and led to her behaving badly and getting booted off the show. Jeff and Jordan were on the way out until the 'charity' events of help from Americas vote.

Natalie's (and she should get the credit not Kevin) idea to lie to Jeff and Jordan about russell was brilliant as he got fooled as expected not thinking 'hold on they will robably say anything to stay!' Jordan says she trusts Kevin LOL who will most likely vote Jeff or Jordan out next. The same guy who previously didnt use the veto to save his friend in the house??

Kevin agreed to tell Jeff the lie about Russell which led to Jeff back dooring Russell which was a fatal move on his part though he was never going to win anyway. Now Jeff or Jordan will be out this week and the other one next week.

Yes Russell and Michelle were a team but also so were Jeff and Jordan and they had a final 4 agreement. Then from there on they could battle it out 2 against two and have a fair winner at the end but Jeff made a stupid move thinking he can win. He is so stupid and doesnt even realise using the coup power alone guarantess no one will vote for him to win since he got 'help' from the public and also back stabbing Russell and others will not vote for him anyway!!

Not sure why people like Jeff, he was having a go at jordan the other week so his true character was slowly coming out and also he stupidly got Kevin and Natalie to agree not to put him up he they win HOH and michelle or Jordan should go up instead...so he backstabbed both his allaince members whne making that deal.

Jeff is just using Jordan to get ahead in the game. No way does he fancy her and his comments about not taking her on the trip he won shows that.

So jeff has made several bad moves and no way in a million years can he win this show.

[BBUK4LYFE]

Excellent post.

I've been preaching this for months now.

[melanie]

Lol I don't think anyone ever denied that J/J are dumb. They're dumb but at least they're likable.

The Coup power wasn't free, he got it from America because they wanted him to get it. If they wanted Jessie to get it then Jessie could have gotten it. It was obvious that he was a fan favourite, good looking or not.

Natalie's lie was NOT brilliant. It was the dumbest lie ever. -1 for Jeff for believing it.

Backdooring Russell was one of the best moves this season. Even Russell thought it was. He has no hard feelings and is willing to vote for Jeff if he gets to the F2.

Jessie will probably vote for Jeff if he is in the F2 too.

IDG how he was showing his "true character". He turned into a douche because he was stressed and confused. It doesn't mean that it's his true character.

Jeff digs Jordan way more than she digs him. If anything, Jordan drags him behind in the game.

Jeff has made several good moves in the game. I thought that no one in the jury would vote for him either but the episode on Thursday proved me wrong. The only person in the jury right now that probably wouldn't vote for him is Lydia. Jessie and Russell would vote based on game play.

[survivorfan]

[rquote=2505367&tid=144556&author=melanie]
Natalie's lie was NOT brilliant. It was the dumbest lie ever. -1 for Jeff for believing it.

Backdooring Russell was one of the best moves this season. Even Russell thought it was. He has no hard feelings and is willing to vote for Jeff if he gets to the F2.
[/rquote]

Natalie's idea to lie to Jeff who was HOH at the time was a dumb lie?

Jeff back dooring Russell was brilliant?

So how come the result is now Jeff and Jordan are now both up for eviction and

Jeff is going home!!

[BBUK4LYFE]

[rquote=2508169&tid=144556&author=survivorfan][rquote=2505367&tid=144556&author=melanie]
Natalie's lie was NOT brilliant. It was the dumbest lie ever. -1 for Jeff for believing it.

Backdooring Russell was one of the best moves this season. Even Russell thought it was. He has no hard feelings and is willing to vote for Jeff if he gets to the F2.
[/rquote]

Natalie's idea to lie to Jeff who was HOH at the time was a dumb lie?

Jeff back dooring Russell was brilliant?

So how come the result is now Jeff and Jordan are now both up for eviction and

Jeff is going home!! [/rquote]
Excellent response.

I was just going to type the same thing, but you already did it.

No more Jeff and Jordan.

[melanie]

[rquote=2508169&tid=144556&author=survivorfan][rquote=2505367&tid=144556&author=melanie]
Natalie's lie was NOT brilliant. It was the dumbest lie ever. -1 for Jeff for believing it.

Backdooring Russell was one of the best moves this season. Even Russell thought it was. He has no hard feelings and is willing to vote for Jeff if he gets to the F2.
[/rquote]

Natalie's idea to lie to Jeff who was HOH at the time was a dumb lie?

Jeff back dooring Russell was brilliant?

So how come the result is now Jeff and Jordan are now both up for eviction and

Jeff is going home!! [/rquote]

I don't know what they showed on the show but everybody watching the live feeds laughed at her because she was so stupid. If she was telling the lie to Kevin, Michelle, Russell or even Jordan, she would have been evicted. I never said the lie didn't work for her advantage but it wasn't brilliant at all. Jeff is just stupid.

Jeff backdooring Russell was one of the best moves this season. Russell even knows that.

[survivorfan]

[/rquote]
Jeff backdooring Russell was one of the best moves this season. Russell even knows that. [/rquote]

OK, let me make it simple. Yes, Jeff backdooring Russell on its own as a strategy is a good move if the point for Jeff playing this game was to win hoh and back door russell.

However, on the bigger picture, to win BB is about playing a game where you are thinking ahead and looking at all possible scenarios to get you to the final two and once in the final two also have to have layed the game such that the jury respect and like your game to vote for you to win.

So backdoring Russell was not a good move on the bigger picutre of winning BB this year on Jeff's part. That was my point and its proved right so far as the person he vetoed to backdoor Jeff has now put both he and Jordan up for eviction so the point is they didnt think this through properly and should have kicked out Kevin.

Saying Russell would have done the same is guessing as russell had promised final four and jeff had promised final four. If Mchelle had won HOH she could have out either one up or even both so its all guess work saying russell would have come after Jeff as requires lots of assumptions but anyone intelligent knows there is no guarantess but Kevin was a bigger risk!

Now Jeff acts like a bad loser after not wining the POV and is even ready to campaign against Jordan....so much for Americas likeable fav

[smartalec2718]

[rquote=2502715&tid=144556&author=survivorfan]Not sure why people like Jeff, he was having a go at jordan the other week so his true character was slowly coming out and also he stupidly got Kevin and Natalie to agree not to put him up he they win HOH and michelle or Jordan should go up instead...so he backstabbed both his allaince members whne making that deal.

Jeff is just using Jordan to get ahead in the game. No way does he fancy her and his comments about not taking her on the trip he won shows that.

So jeff has made several bad moves and no way in a million years can he win this show.[/rquote]


I believe the majority of the American public is against you on this one. We took a pretty conclusive poll on it a couple weeks ago when we GAVE THE COUP D'ETAT TO JEFF.

And also, how can you possibly make any conclusive judgment on Jeff's feelings for Jordan? The 3x-weekly highlight shows are so heavily edited that you can't really rely on them to give an accurate portrayal of the HGs.

[Chilltown]

God, I can't stand either side. Jeff and Jordan do have something going on, they do like each other. HOWEVER, Jeff knows fully well that the majority of Reality TV Showmances fail and he's there for the money first and foremost. Who wouldn't be? Jeff made a stupid move by putting up Russell, it wasn't by falling for a lie that Natalie/Kevin told him, the lie was pointless. Jeff will be leaving this week because he made a moronic decision in trusting the enemy over someone in his own alliance. Nice guy but he's a dumb player, kind of like Janelle from BB6 and BB7, great at competitions but that was pretty much it.

[ziltan]

Jeff backdooring Russell was the next best move

Jeff getting Jessie out was the best move of the season!

Go Jeff!

[BBUK4LYFE]

[rquote=2532213&tid=144556&author=ziltan]Jeff backdooring Russell was the next best move

Jeff getting Jessie out was the best move of the season!

Go Jeff![/rquote]
If it was such a good move, why is his ass leaving tonight?

If he had kept Russell, he would have been safe this week.

[melanie]

[rquote=2533102&tid=144556&author=BBUK4LYFE][rquote=2532213&tid=144556&author=ziltan]Jeff backdooring Russell was the next best move

Jeff getting Jessie out was the best move of the season!

Go Jeff![/rquote]
If it was such a good move, why is his ass leaving tonight?

If he had kept Russell, he would have been safe this week. [/rquote]

He would have left even if Russell wasn't backdoored! Russell said it himself, it was a great move to backdoor him.

[melanie]

[rquote=2518024&tid=144556&author=survivorfan][/rquote]
Jeff backdooring Russell was one of the best moves this season. Russell even knows that. [/rquote]

OK, let me make it simple. Yes, Jeff backdooring Russell on its own as a strategy is a good move if the point for Jeff playing this game was to win hoh and back door russell.

However, on the bigger picture, to win BB is about playing a game where you are thinking ahead and looking at all possible scenarios to get you to the final two and once in the final two also have to have layed the game such that the jury respect and like your game to vote for you to win.

So backdoring Russell was not a good move on the bigger picutre of winning BB this year on Jeff's part. That was my point and its proved right so far as the person he vetoed to backdoor Jeff has now put both he and Jordan up for eviction so the point is they didnt think this through properly and should have kicked out Kevin.

Saying Russell would have done the same is guessing as russell had promised final four and jeff had promised final four. If Mchelle had won HOH she could have out either one up or even both so its all guess work saying russell would have come after Jeff as requires lots of assumptions but anyone intelligent knows there is no guarantess but Kevin was a bigger risk!

Now Jeff acts like a bad loser after not wining the POV and is even ready to campaign against Jordan....so much for Americas likeable fav [/rquote]

We saw on tonight's episode that Jessie AND Russell would have voted for Jeff because they're voting based on game. They both agree that Jeff has made some of the best moves this season.

$500,000 > Showmance

Just because Jordan is too nice to campaign doesn't mean it's wrong for Jeff to. She wanted him to campaign. Quit reaching.

[BBUK4LYFE]

[rquote=2535070&tid=144556&author=melanie][rquote=2533102&tid=144556&author=BBUK4LYFE][rquote=2532213&tid=144556&author=ziltan]Jeff backdooring Russell was the next best move

Jeff getting Jessie out was the best move of the season!

Go Jeff![/rquote]
If it was such a good move, why is his ass leaving tonight?

If he had kept Russell, he would have been safe this week. [/rquote]

He would have left even if Russell wasn't backdoored! [/rquote]

Well we will never find that out for certain.

What we do know is, Saving Kevin and backdooring Russell came back to bite him in the behind.

[melanie]

[rquote=2535448&tid=144556&author=BBUK4LYFE][rquote=2535070&tid=144556&author=melanie][rquote=2533102&tid=144556&author=BBUK4LYFE][rquote=2532213&tid=144556&author=ziltan]Jeff backdooring Russell was the next best move

Jeff getting Jessie out was the best move of the season!

Go Jeff![/rquote]
If it was such a good move, why is his ass leaving tonight?

If he had kept Russell, he would have been safe this week. [/rquote]

He would have left even if Russell wasn't backdoored! [/rquote]

Well we will never find that out for certain.

What we do know is, Saving Kevin and backdooring Russell came back to bite him in the behind. [/rquote]

It doesn't matter, it could have gone either way. At least Jeff lasted longer than Jessie ^_^

[Chilltown]

[rquote=2537941&tid=144556&author=melanie][rquote=2535448&tid=144556&author=BBUK4LYFE][rquote=2535070&tid=144556&author=melanie][rquote=2533102&tid=144556&author=BBUK4LYFE][rquote=2532213&tid=144556&author=ziltan]Jeff backdooring Russell was the next best move

Jeff getting Jessie out was the best move of the season!

Go Jeff![/rquote]
If it was such a good move, why is his ass leaving tonight?

If he had kept Russell, he would have been safe this week. [/rquote]

He would have left even if Russell wasn't backdoored! [/rquote]

Well we will never find that out for certain.

What we do know is, Saving Kevin and backdooring Russell came back to bite him in the behind. [/rquote]

It doesn't matter, it could have gone either way. At least Jeff lasted longer than Jessie ^_^[/rquote]

Alison Grodner said in an interview that Russell was good on his word in the DR about keeping Jeff until the final four. So getting rid of Russell was a poor move. He saved the man who took him out of the game. For that Jeff is a moron. But a likable moron.