[Shasown]

I suppose they still have a long way to go, however one man at least is trying, you never know another few decades and they may be dragging them in the 21st.

The first ever Muslim sex shop has opened for business online - a move its owner hopes will change people's view of the faith. The business venture was dreamt-up by a Dutchman who saw the demand for erotic products that meet the rules of Sharia law.

Despite selling no toys or DVDs, El Asira, which means "Society" in Arabic, drew 70,000 hits in its first four days online.

The website offers massage oils and tablets that claim to enhance sexual prowess.

All ingredients are halal, or "permissible under Islam", according to founder Abdelaziz Aouragh.

"Most of the other products out there have pictures of naked people or foul language - it was very difficult to find ones that I could use in my business," he said.

So Mr Aouragh, who is married, set about consulting Islamic religious leaders and scholars to see what his business venture could sell and to whom.

"I have learnt a lot about what Islam says about sexuality, about how important it is to have a healthy sex life," he said.

Muslim clerics like Dutch Imam Abdul Jabbar see no harm in Mr Aouragh's site.

"As long as he doesn't sell sex toys or those sorts of things there is no problem," he said.

"The Prophet Mohammad gave lots of advice about sex in marriage and there need not be any shame."

As well as making money, Mr Aouragh wants to change the image of Islam as hostile to women and provoke positive thinking about the faith.

In the Netherlands support is growing for the far-right, anti-Islamic Party for Freedom (PVV).

Its leader Geert Wilders wants to ban the Koran, which he likens to Hitler's Mein Kampf, and wants a tax on wearing head scarves.

"Everybody is talking about Islam in a negative way," said Mr Aouragh. "I am trying to get something positive out of the dark.

"Muslims also have to deal with stereotypical prejudices by some non-Muslims on the topic of sexuality within the Islam.

"We want to share with other Muslims in a positive way our contribution to a broader view of sexuality and eroticism within the Muslim community," the website says, "for Muslims themselves, as for others."

The web shop also aims to offer sex-related information in the future.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100401/...i-3fd0ae9.html

I thought halal butt plug or halal rampant rabbit on seeing the lead parargraph, too much to hope for.

[setanta]

So who is allowed to go in and purchase? All male thingy? Equality me ar$e.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by setanta

So who is allowed to go in and purchase? All male thingy? Equality me ar$e.

Its a web shop James, how would they know if its a man or a woman purchasing?

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Its a web shop James, how would they know if its a man or a woman purchasing?

Don't be naive baby. lol.

[Shasown]

Just visited it, home page has the message "wij zijn zo terug" its dutch for we will be right back.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Just visited it, home page has the message "wij zijn zo terug" its dutch for we will be right back.

After we get the gags off our faces. Yes, I'm terrible.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by setanta

After we get the gags off our faces. Yes, I'm terrible.

Nah dont think they will stock burkas with inbuilt gimp masks but you never know.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Nah dont think they will stock burkas with inbuilt gimp masks but you never know.

Maybe that's why the women wear burkas... to hide the gimp masks. You might be onto something there baby.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Its a web shop James, how would they know if its a man or a woman purchasing?

Are married women 'allowed' their own credit cards and money supply in Islam? After all, insecure men need to keep their women dependant on them - take away their free choice - and make it extremely difficult for them to ever leave - no matter how badly treated?

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by setanta

Maybe that's why the women wear burkas... to hide the gimp masks. You might be onto something there baby.

Maybe those that wear burkas are ugly - thus why the men want them covered up!

[bananarama]

Islam will never be dragged into any century........Its far to entrenched in the dark ages of delusional mind sets and power thirsty control freaks.......

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by bananarama

Islam will never be dragged into any century........Its far to entrenched in the dark ages of delusional mind sets and power thirsty control freaks.......

And then you wonder why minority groups tend to become insular when we have such open minded opinions of others?

I bet you still believe the old woman living down at the end of your street with all the cats is not only strange but if you annoy her your milk will be curdled?

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Are married women 'allowed' their own credit cards and money supply in Islam? After all, insecure men need to keep their women dependant on them - take away their free choice - and make it extremely difficult for them to ever leave - no matter how badly treated?

Are all married woman outside of Islam allowed their own credit cards and money supply? etc etc etc

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Are all married woman outside of Islam allowed their own credit cards and money supply? etc etc etc

The only other women that might not, as far as I can see - are those scared and psychologically conditioned by abusive, controlling, often violent partners! Is there any difference?

Whether or not in the name of religion - these women are controlled by controlling men! So called religious beliefs are just a cloak to hide behind!

[InOne]

Ahhh these 4th generation muslim girls, always up for a shag