[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I totally agree with you, It would look terrible and very suspicious if Katie survived this week if in the bottom 2 again.
She would then have been there 4 weeks out of 6,and I recalee when Simon had the Conway Sisters,they had been in the last a few times and he said. as he voted out his own act, it was clear they were never going to be able to win the competition because they were in the bottom 2 again.
So off they went.

I really cannot see, other than Wagner, who Katie could now stay over in the bottom 2. All the others are superior to her in style and vocals,they also remember the words to whatever song they do too.

I have a feeling that it may not be that unlikely that the public will put Cheryl in the same position again this week, with 2 of her acts again making the bottom 2.

As Jeff Brazier said though, they still have to have one more week of a double elimination and if that is the case this week, then Katie is well gone,I feel sure the public and those who voted for Treyc will want to ensure Katie goes this week.

I doubt the double elimination will happen this week though as what seems to be the desired thing from Simon and and the producers is that they want Katie on the tour but I hope she's gone this week,its very long overdue and no other acts should lose out now for her failure to be popular.

Even Wagner remembers the words to his songs!!

[nanaimo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I totally agree with you, It would look terrible and very suspicious if Katie survived this week if in the bottom 2 again.
She would then have been there 4 weeks out of 6,and I recalee when Simon had the Conway Sisters,they had been in the last a few times and he said. as he voted out his own act, it was clear they were never going to be able to win the competition because they were in the bottom 2 again.
So off they went.

I really cannot see, other than Wagner, who Katie could now stay over in the bottom 2. All the others are superior to her in style and vocals,they also remember the words to whatever song they do too.

I have a feeling that it may not be that unlikely that the public will put Cheryl in the same position again this week, with 2 of her acts again making the bottom 2.

As Jeff Brazier said though, they still have to have one more week of a double elimination and if that is the case this week, then Katie is well gone,I feel sure the public and those who voted for Treyc will want to ensure Katie goes this week.

I doubt the double elimination will happen this week though as what seems to be the desired thing from Simon and and the producers is that they want Katie on the tour but I hope she's gone this week,its very long overdue and no other acts should lose out now for her failure to be popular.

Totally agree, maybe 4th time Simon will see the light if not too distracted by Cheryl and please Treyc fans do your duty this weekend, that poor girl didn't deserve to be shafted like that

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by nanaimo

Totally agree, maybe 4th time Simon will see the light if not too distracted by Cheryl and please Treyc fans do your duty this weekend, that poor girl didn't deserve to be shafted like that

The question is who do Treyc fans vote for in order to make sure Katie is bottom?

[nanaimo]

yeah thats the problem

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

The question is who do Treyc fans vote for in order to make sure Katie is bottom?

maybe Wagner or Paije or even Mary this week???

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

maybe Wagner or Paije or even Mary this week???

it just so hard to tell though. None of the rest of them have been in the bottom before so we have no clue who's been close and who hasn't.

Like remember the year Eoghan was in it and after the final they called out who topped the voting each week and he'd topped it 7 times or something, that was a real surprise, I would never have picked him not for one show so Paije could be topping the votes for all we know

[nanaimo]

not wagner, danni, cheryl and simon will not save him

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by nanaimo

not wagner, danni, cheryl and simon will not save him

I really believe that if Wagner ends up in the bottom that Louis and Simon would save him

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by nanaimo

not wagner, danni, cheryl and simon will not save him

well Simon said last week that he 'quite liked' Wagners song.. he did exactly the same last year and the week after booted out Lucie and kept Jedward

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

well Simon said last week that he 'quite liked' Wagners song.. he did exactly the same last year and the week after booted out Lucie and kept Jedward

yep, in fact I would actually put money on the fact that if those two are in the bottom he'll save Wagner

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

yep, in fact I would actually put money on the fact that if those two are in the bottom he'll save Wagner

lol.. he'll make it look like a really surprise decision too I can just see his faked surprised smile

[nanaimo]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

yep, in fact I would actually put money on the fact that if those two are in the bottom he'll save Wagner

Fingers crossed

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by nanaimo

Fingers crossed

I'm always waiting every week for Wagner to be in the bottom though and it never happens, I wonder just how big this campaign is??

[nanaimo]

Well i play a huge game online which has about 14 million players and i posted on forums to vote for wagner so hopefully we will get half of them anyway

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by nanaimo

Well i play a huge game online which has about 14 million players and i posted on forums to vote for wagner so hopefully we will get half of them anyway

good luck with that, I'll be thinking of you Sunday if he escapes the bottom 2 again!!

[Tom4784]

Ofcom for once has got it right, The public don't have a say in who goes until the final weeks. For now you only get to choose who's in the bottom 2 unless it's taken to Deadlock. It's upto ITV how they determine who goes and it always has been. I think they made the right decision, Treyc was never going to be successful as by her own admission she had no interest in forming an artistic identity for herself. I'd prefer the bland people go rather then the interesting ones.

Ofcom has ruled that it's not a fix so drop it and stop being bitter, it's getting tiresome.

[nanaimo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Ofcom for once has got it right, The public don't have a say in who goes until the final weeks. For now you only get to choose who's in the bottom 2 unless it's taken to Deadlock. It's upto ITV how they determine who goes and it always has been. I think they made the right decision, Treyc was never going to be successful as by her own admission she had no interest in forming an artistic identity for herself. I'd prefer the bland people go rather then the interesting ones.

Ofcom has ruled that it's not a fix so drop it and stop being bitter, it's getting tiresome.

So says a katie fan

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Ofcom for once has got it right, The public don't have a say in who goes until the final weeks. For now you only get to choose who's in the bottom 2 unless it's taken to Deadlock. It's upto ITV how they determine who goes and it always has been. I think they made the right decision, Treyc was never going to be successful as by her own admission she had no interest in forming an artistic identity for herself. I'd prefer the bland people go rather then the interesting ones.

Ofcom has ruled that it's not a fix so drop it and stop being bitter, it's getting tiresome.

If people are annoyed, they're allowed talk about it Dezzy

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by nanaimo

So says a katie fan

Well I'm obviouslyy going to be stunned into silence by that cliched retort now aren't I?

There's no fixes here, If Ofcom says there ain't anything wrong then there's nothing wrong. It's a fact. Try an argue against that or are you going to say 'So says a ____ fan' again?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

If people are annoyed, they're allowed talk about it Dezzy

They've got no room to be though, it ain't fixed and if they wanted Treyc through that badly they should have voted, Simple as. The fact is no one cared about her but they're just using her as a reason to rage now because they can.

People like having a reason to complain and hate.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Well I'm obviouslyy going to be stunned into silence by that cliched retort now aren't I?

There's no fixes here, If Ofcom says there ain't anything wrong then there's nothing wrong. It's a fact. Try an argue against that or are you going to say 'So says a ____ fan' again?

Technically speaking maybe but people have a problem with the way they may have manipulated the situation by changing around they're normal procedures to avoid deadlock. If you don't agree that's your opinion but other peoples opinions are equally as valid even if you don't agree with them.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

They've got no room to be though, it ain't fixed and if they wanted Treyc through that badly they should have voted, Simple as. The fact is no one cared about her but they're just using her as a reason to rage now because they can.

People like having a reason to complain and hate.

They have no reason in your opinion but in theirs and mine, we do. They may not have broken any rules but imo they manipulated the situation to suit what they wanted, which if nothing else is unfair (imo)

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by dezzy

I'd prefer the bland people go rather then the interesting ones.

Dezzy why don't you think its ok to debate this then if you like the interesting things??

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Technically speaking maybe but people have a problem with the way they may have manipulated the situation by changing around they're normal procedures to avoid deadlock. If you don't agree that's your opinion but other peoples opinions are equally as valid even if you don't agree with them.

I'm not denying him an opinion, I'm just saying it's a fact now that it's not fixed. He can be in denial about it all he wants but that doesn't stop me from having an opinion on his opinion. It's a two way street Niamh.

Like I said, ITV are allowed to determine who goes however they wish, it's always been the case but people are okay with it as long as they get their own way. It's only a problem when they don't.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Dezzy why don't you think its ok to debate this then if you like the interesting things??

I think there's no point in wasting time discusing whether something was fixed or not when Ofcom who'd have looked through the records and such and know more about it then any of us has ruled it as not a fix.

There's debate and then there's denial.