The Hantz's

[MeMyselfAndI]

I liked Willie he was very entertaining, and all his friends turned their backs on him /:
I do not condone what he did though

[troynuncdicit]

Originally Posted by SoBig

Russell is easily one of the greatest Survivor players ever. Anyone saying not is just a hater that lacks objectivity.

Alright then, let's speak objectively. Dumb moves Russell has made include, but are not limited to...

-Voting off Liz over Natalie after acknowledging that Natalie's a jury threat
-Not keeping his first HII secret in Samoa, which forced him to play it ASAP
-Going to the end with Mick and Natalie instead of Jaison and Shambo
-His whole "social game" if you can even call it that

-Playing his HII on Parvati instead of himself when Tyson was voted off
-Voting off Coach and Courtney instead of Sandra before the merge
-Wasting a HII just to spite Parvati
-Actually believing the rock in Rupert's pocket and then doing a poor job of splitting the votes by targeting Candice
-Voting Danielle off
-His even worse "social game," which we all thought was impossible to regress

Mhmm, best player ever. So robbed, gosh darn those bitter juries.

[Manal]

looool they are an entertainment family, I will watch any show for them.

[Yayita]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

Number of seasons Sandra won... 2


Number of seasons Russell won..... oh yeah

LOl Drunk, I like Russell in survivor, even though he never won you have to admit Sandra was so boring!!! To this day I am shocked at how she has won twice!

[Roy Mars III]

Originally Posted by SoBig

Russell is easily one of the greatest Survivor players ever. Anyone saying not is just a hater that lacks objectivity.

Sandra is not even the best female player. So how in the world is she the best ever?

Cirie>>>>> Sandra

Cirie is so underrated

[Yayita]

Originally Posted by reece(:

willie tweeted this earlier

How mean LOL, he's picking on her weakest feature.

[starry]

Russell is obviously a legend, in general I probably like more winners of the audience vote in seasons I liked than the losers/jury vote anyway.

Sandra was pretty boring for me. She won more through fortuitous circumstances than anything. First time round Lil made a typical stupid Survivor move in taking Sandra to the final 2. Sandra being a weak player (crap at challenges) tended to slide by while the focus was on other bigger threats.

[Yayita]

Originally Posted by starry

Russell is obviously a legend, in general I probably like more winners of the audience vote in seasons I liked than the losers/jury vote anyway.

Sandra was pretty boring for me. She won more through fortuitous circumstances than anything. First time round Lil made a typical stupid Survivor move in taking Sandra to the final 2. Sandra being a weak player (crap at challenges) tended to slide by while the focus was on other bigger threats.

Totally, I remember I couldnt even watch her face on screen.. so boring!

[swinearefine]

How is Sandra boring She made Pearl Islands and HvV for me, and I've always considered her one of the most entertaining Survivor contestants of all time. She was a potty-mouthed, argumentative, sassy bitch and her casual domination of two seasons was a joy to watch... in a sexual way.

Youtube video

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Alright then, let's speak objectively. Dumb moves Russell has made include, but are not limited to...

-Voting off Liz over Natalie after acknowledging that Natalie's a jury threat
-Not keeping his first HII secret in Samoa, which forced him to play it ASAP
-Going to the end with Mick and Natalie instead of Jaison and Shambo
-His whole "social game" if you can even call it that

-Playing his HII on Parvati instead of himself when Tyson was voted off
-Voting off Coach and Courtney instead of Sandra before the merge
-Wasting a HII just to spite Parvati
-Actually believing the rock in Rupert's pocket and then doing a poor job of splitting the votes by targeting Candice
-Voting Danielle off
-His even worse "social game," which we all thought was impossible to regress

Mhmm, best player ever. So robbed, gosh darn those bitter juries.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by swinearefine

How is Sandra boring She made Pearl Islands and HvV for me, and I've always considered her one of the most entertaining Survivor contestants of all time. She was a potty-mouthed, argumentative, sassy bitch and her casual domination of two seasons was a joy to watch... in a sexual way.

Sandra was brilliant television, but i don't think she's the best player ever. She was great TV though lol

[troynuncdicit]

Originally Posted by Yayita

LOl Drunk, I like Russell in survivor, even though he never won you have to admit Sandra was so boring!!! To this day I am shocked at how she has won twice!

What? Russell's one of the most static characters in Survivor history. How can you say Sandra's boring when every week we could get "I'M RUSSELL HANTZ! I'M THE BEST EVER AT THIS GAME" confessionals. He was the same every damn week for two back to back seasons and it was boring and actually draining. Meanwhile Sandra's comedy gold and is the furthest thing from boring. There shouldn't be shock as to how she won twice, but since people on this board only seem to care about big flashy moves despite how self-destructing they can be, I guess I can see how she gets overlooked.

Originally Posted by starry

Russell is obviously a legend, in general I probably like more winners of the audience vote in seasons I liked than the losers/jury vote anyway.

Sandra was pretty boring for me. She won more through fortuitous circumstances than anything. First time round Lil made a typical stupid Survivor move in taking Sandra to the final 2. Sandra being a weak player (crap at challenges) tended to slide by while the focus was on other bigger threats.

Are you joking? The only thing Russell is legendary for is helping ruin what Survivor has become.

And once again, Sandra is not boring. That's pretty much fact. Another fact, you don't win by accident twice. Neither of her wins were an accident. She's probably the most efficient player at the "as long as it isn't me" strategy because she's always able to have someone ahead of her as the target. You can still be a good player without being good in challenges. People tend to not respect "under the radar" games for whatever reason, but they're easily the most effective and garner the best results.

Originally Posted by swinearefine

How is Sandra boring She made Pearl Islands and HvV for me, and I've always considered her one of the most entertaining Survivor contestants of all time. She was a potty-mouthed, argumentative, sassy bitch and her casual domination of two seasons was a joy to watch... in a sexual way.

Thank god someone else gets it. Sandra's one of the funniest people to ever be on Survivor.

[lostalex]

SHe was funny , but people were laughing at her, not with her. everyone underestimated her because she was so stupid. That doesn't make her a good player, that just makes her a lucky idiot. She did nothing that anyone can consider smart or talented in the game, she was just so incompetent that no one thought she was a threat.

[troynuncdicit]

Originally Posted by lostalex

SHe was funny , but people were laughing at her, not with her. everyone underestimated her because she was so stupid. That doesn't make her a good player, that just makes her a lucky idiot. She did nothing that anyone can consider smart or talented in the game, she was just so incompetent that no one thought she was a threat.

Do you actively go out of the way to avoid logic altogether?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Do you actively go out of the way to avoid logic altogether?

did you actually read my post or are you just trolling me?

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by Yayita

LOl Drunk, I like Russell in survivor, even though he never won you have to admit Sandra was so boring!!! To this day I am shocked at how she has won twice!

I never found her boring.

She won because she knows how to play the jury, I mean even Amanda and Candice (Parvati's two allies in her other seasons), vote for Sandra to win over her. If anything to this day I am shocked that bitch Candice was considered a hero

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Alright then, let's speak objectively. Dumb moves Russell has made include, but are not limited to...

-Voting off Liz over Natalie after acknowledging that Natalie's a jury threat
-Not keeping his first HII secret in Samoa, which forced him to play it ASAP
-Going to the end with Mick and Natalie instead of Jaison and Shambo
-His whole "social game" if you can even call it that

-Playing his HII on Parvati instead of himself when Tyson was voted off
-Voting off Coach and Courtney instead of Sandra before the merge
-Wasting a HII just to spite Parvati
-Actually believing the rock in Rupert's pocket and then doing a poor job of splitting the votes by targeting Candice
-Voting Danielle off
-His even worse "social game," which we all thought was impossible to regress

Mhmm, best player ever. So robbed, gosh darn those bitter juries.

Now post his good moves, but you won't. Why? You lack objectivity.

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

I never found her boring.

She won because she knows how to play the jury, I mean even Amanda and Candice (Parvati's two allies in her other seasons), vote for Sandra to win over her. If anything to this day I am shocked that bitch Candice was considered a hero

I don't know why Candice was a hero either. If anything she was a villain. Same with Stephanie and Cirie. If Parvatti was a villain then so was Cirrie.

[troynuncdicit]

Originally Posted by lostalex

did you actually read my post or are you just trolling me?

Obviously I read it, that's how I could tell how devoid you are of logic. If people were laughing at, not with Sandra, she wouldn't have gotten 12 Jury votes across two seasons. She's not stupid if she won two seasons and she's done plenty smart. The incompetent one was Russell for crucially underestimating her. You would think he would learn from his mistakes with Natalie but he took the same approach. Oh and he did it again in Redemption Island, but luckily we only had to endure a few episodes of him.

[troynuncdicit]

Originally Posted by SoBig

Now post his good moves, but you won't. Why? You lack objectivity.

There aren't any good moves to post because you can counter what little good moves he has made with his horrendous social game. If the Jury hates your guts because you treated them like ****, then there's no way in hell they're going to give you a million dollars. My god to think people actually ignore such an obvious fact.

If you want to post a list of his good moves go ahead, but chances are they're not even good moves since you've tried to defend Russell for some of his stupid moves. I don't see how anyone can try to act like Russell was robbed of a win when you can seriously make a laundry list of all the mistakes he's made.