[Marsh.]

This thread is showing me why I've not really been missing this forum.
Nothing worse than deliberate generalisation to piss people off.

Pyramid and a couple of her colleagues find jobs in the blink of an eye after many years experience in a very specialised job role and suddenly every unemployed person in the country is lazy?
6 people to every job means you should find a job within 6 attempts?

What a load of ****e.

Is this like a person in a mansion with three cars looking at homeless people telling them it's not as hard as they're making out to live in a comfortable house with money in the bank?

[Redway]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

This thread is showing me why I've not really been missing this forum.
Nothing worse than deliberate generalisation to piss people off.

Pyramid and a couple of his colleagues find jobs in the blink of an eye after many years experience in a very specialised job role and suddenly every unemployed person in the country is lazy?
6 people to every job means you should find a job within 6 attempts?

What a load of ****e.

Is this like a person in a mansion with three cars looking at homeless people telling them it's not as hard as they're making out to live in a comfortable house with money in the bank?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Redway

Oh be quiet, I forgot. She's been banned for six months. lol

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

This thread is showing me why I've not really been missing this forum.
Nothing worse than deliberate generalisation to piss people off.

Pyramid and a couple of her colleagues find jobs in the blink of an eye after many years experience in a very specialised job role and suddenly every unemployed person in the country is lazy?
6 people to every job means you should find a job within 6 attempts?

What a load of ****e.

Is this like a person in a mansion with three cars looking at homeless people telling them it's not as hard as they're making out to live in a comfortable house with money in the bank?

Absolutely great post - welcome back 08, .

[the truth]

I agree work can be found, not necessarily the work you want or are qualified for, well then work in a job whilst still looking for the job you want

care work is everywhere, drivers jobs, buses, coaches, taxis, deliveries, vans, minibuses, as long as you have a cleanish license you can work most of these jobs

labouring, building, manual jobs etc

gardening, clearances, house removals etc

I agree some people are lazy and are encouraged to be lazy and do not make it happen

genuine cases should be treated differently , but young healthy fit people, need a kick up the backside and stop getting spoon fed and instead need to be told to go to work

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

This thread is showing me why I've not really been missing this forum.
Nothing worse than deliberate generalisation to piss people off.

Pyramid and a couple of her colleagues find jobs in the blink of an eye after many years experience in a very specialised job role and suddenly every unemployed person in the country is lazy?
6 people to every job means you should find a job within 6 attempts?

What a load of ****e.

Is this like a person in a mansion with three cars looking at homeless people telling them it's not as hard as they're making out to live in a comfortable house with money in the bank?

If you don't like my viewpoints - feel free to disagree but at least try to do it in a civil manner.

Your memory is failing a little..... my ban was 3 months....not 6 as well as together with the fact that I am female, not male.

Hardly my fault that there are jobs out there that are easily secured, or that there are those who cannot acknowledge that . .....despite plenty of folk arguing otherwise. It is possible to find new employment immediately - as I (and others on the thread have also stated).

I enjoy reading such comments that you made re this;

after many years experience in a very specialised job role

which show how little knowledge you have of my professional life but feel you know enough to criticise.

We all had different roles, different grades and some had only been with the company 2 years - a new job role for them at the time and at 23 years of age: one certainly didn't have many years of experience. How do you propose that she managed to secure a position without many years of experience in a 'not so specialised' occupation?

Although, I am hugely complimented by your comments 08Marsh, in that you regard my profession and role as a very specialised one, that's made me smile knowing that you think so highly of my abiliities.

What a lovely start to the morning.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by the truth

I agree work can be found, not necessarily the work you want or are qualified for, well then work in a job whilst still looking for the job you want

care work is everywhere, drivers jobs, buses, coaches, taxis, deliveries, vans, minibuses, as long as you have a cleanish license you can work most of these jobs

labouring, building, manual jobs etc

gardening, clearances, house removals etc

I agree some people are lazy and are encouraged to be lazy and do not make it happen

genuine cases should be treated differently , but young healthy fit people, need a kick up the backside and stop getting spoon fed and instead need to be told to go to work

Nice to see someone else sharing the view - and I agree with your final comment so much.

One size doesn't fit all and there will be some who for no viable reasons, cannot get work - but there is as I have said, an element of those (as you so put it), need a kick up the backside and stop wanting spoon fed.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by *Kate*

Fgs, I've bitten my lip for as long as I could.

Redway, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Pyramid, you've been back for a very short time and quite frankly I've stayed out of this thread, despite being offended by it, because I know you'll take great pleasure in knowing you've annoyed me. Imho you started this thread to deliberately be inflammatory and piss people off, the OP is nothing but a smug gloat about how things went extraordinarily well for you. You were lucky. I'm glad you found work so quickly, I wouldn't wish unemployment on anyone, its soul destroying. For the record, in my case it HAS been very difficult to find work, for many reasons that I'm not going to drone on about. Yet I'm still trying, and will continue to do so for as long as it takes. As for the inference that if a person really wanted to work then they could, that's bull and somewhat insulting. To reiterate, I really want to work, I'd give anything not to have been made redundant, I was unlucky. And eventually things will turn around and I'll get back on my feet again, through perseverance.

- imagines emoticon of banging head against brick wall -

give it a rest please.

Kate, your post comes over as one with a high degree of aggressiveness, with a bit of the passive being thrown in - that really is no needed all throughout it, particualarly when you start it off with "FGS".

It's very unfortunate that are finding it very difficult - I'm sorry to learn that you still find yourself in that position & I hope it turns around soon - however: let me point out that the position you find yourself in, is not my fault: so why have a go at me and show such anger at me?

Neither is it my fault that I & others were able to move from one employement to another with great ease and you have taken great exception to that being a discussion point.

With all respect to you Kate, instead of berating & attempting to attack me on a personal level which is mainly what you have done in your post above - there are many ways in which you could actively & interestingly contribute to the thread - explaining how difficult is it and what obstacles are in your way, and discussing what other avenues may be available (or not)... which I'd be far more receptive to as far as the discussion goes - rather than coming across angry because I have an viewpoint that you don't agree with.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Jords

Im with Kate. Im glad to see you back Pyra but sometimes you do talk tosh. Just because something worked out great for you and a few collegues who all have working experience under their belts, does not mean success can be generalized to everybody so easily.

Thanks for the welcome Jords.... but I have said repeatedly and used the words 'some / 'an element' to indicate clearly that it is not a sweeping generalisation.

My own view is that is is not always as difficult as some make it out to be - and similarly there are those on the thread who have a different view: that they are of the view that it IS as difficult as it is made out to be.

That's the reason for the thread - to discuss these differing viewpoints and why we have them.

Originally Posted by michael21

did the company you worked for give a reason for the redundancies whar was the company name????????????

Companies do not tend to make people redundant without giving a valid reason for doing so.

The name of Company is irrelevent and has no bearing on the discussion.

Originally Posted by Lee.

And the bit about us using other people's money?

Originally Posted by Omah

Us?

Originally Posted by Lee.

Scotland

Originally Posted by Omah

Edinburgh is Scotland's leading provider of chargeable financial services, which collect funds (from the public or other institutions) and invests them in financial assets - financial services, by definition, do not use their own money.

http://www.scotland.org/work/key-industries/

IMO, the so-called "financial services sector" is just another name for "parasites", wherever they are located .....

Originally Posted by Omah

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/n...#ixzz25LwdFx1V

Surprise, surprise - there's a North/South divide for England .....

And the Scots are living on offshore resources and using other people's money .....

Your recent posts are showing nothing more than xenophobia Omah and I for one would be grateful if you could stick to the sujbect matter: rather than trying to turn it into some Scotland vs England argument. thanks.

[Marc]

Sorry but this thread has been derailed and it's just causing a lot of harm to other members and we've had some complaints. I think it's best to just retify the issue by closing it. It'll re-open if the other MODs disagree with my ruling.