[optimisticcynic]

Loved So Solid Crew. Garage and Grime pioneers.

[smeagol]

harvey is a nobhead a talentless wannabe who is pretending to be someone better than he is.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

K not reading this mess of a thread, but I think aside from Locke/Brother Leon/whatever other clones of them exist, everyone is pretty much in general consensus that Harvey doesn't have a right to be the moral compass of the group (especially in regards to Danica.) He sucks and is boring, not worth having this long of a thread. Let's all move on.

[Stevep]

Harvey is a decent guy, sure he has made mistakes but so has everyone. Everyone calls him a love rat and yet treat the likes of Martin like a God, do all you guys honestly believe Martin didn't cheat back in the days of his band when women must have been throwing themselves all over him? Of course he did, over and over most likely. You live, you learn.

I'm not a big fan of the guy or anything along those lines, i just don;t think he is the malicious individual that everyone portrays him as.

People just love to judge on stereotypes.

[erinp5]

The guy from Plymouth is a nasty vile ignorant clown,innit.

[coolface]

I don't think he's even that bad, he doesn't deserve all the hate he gets here

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by Stevep

People just love to judge on stereotypes.

Not at all, I judge him on a combination of his past and present behaviour. Nothing Ive seen in that house tells me he has learned anything or has developed a better attitude towards women or relinquished his ill judged 'gangsta' style attitude.

He applauds Mike for the way he plays women on JS but slates Danica for doing the same thing, talks about women like property, shows his a**ehole in front of a 70 year old woman he barely knows and doesn't even apologise for it, insults and bullies two women cause they wouldn't get with his mates, s**t stirs a situation with his 'friend' for his own entertainment... etc etc

Add this behaviour to his frankly appalling past and you have yourself the dictionary definition of the word bellend... get it? got it! GOOD

[Livia]

I don't care what he's done in his private life. Judging him by how he's been in the house, I think he's immature and profoundly unamusing.

[mr rochester]

Originally Posted by Livia

I think he's immature and profoundly unamusing.

Oh yes...

[Madmacs]

...it's good that someone reflects on their mistakes and can then use the experience to move on and have a more balanced life...the problem for me, is that with all of this experience Harvey could be less judgmental and critical of a younger person (male or female) but chooses to puff up his chest and moralise.

He's very old fashioned in his views about women and so for him it's OK for guys to do what they do but not the girls... IMO I think he would have had a totally different perspective if Danica had fancied him...he was annoyed at not being the centre of the 2 glamorous women's attentions and that's all really.

[Jake.]

Can we not just forget about him now? He is free to sink back into nothing again.