[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He's not a cop, he's part of the Neighbourhood watch, any American is allowed carry a gun with a licence

Yes
but many on USA TV call him a Cop.


For You
he is a Dodgy NW

[SoBig]

He is not a cop. Not even remotely close. Anyone can be part of a neighbourhood watch.

[arista]

Originally Posted by SoBig

He is not a cop. Not even remotely close. Anyone can be part of a neighbourhood watch.

Yes thats the problem they have.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes thats the problem they have.

That in itself shouldn't be a problem, a neighbourhood watch member is only supposed to do that..........watch. The problem is with their gun laws imo

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That in itself shouldn't be a problem, a neighbourhood watch member is only supposed to do that..........watch. The problem is with their gun laws imo

America will never change on Guns.

But NW Staff that are Dodgy
should be sacked

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by arista

America will never change on Guns.

But NW Staff that are Dodgy
should be sacked

Well certainly, if they're following people around with guns, yeah

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He's not a cop, he's part of the Neighbourhood watch, any American is allowed carry a gun with a licence

You don't even need a license to carry a gun in Florida and there is no registry.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

You don't even need a license to carry a gun in Florida and there is no registry.

Wow, that's scary

[Kizzy]

He was in no way shape or form a cop...He was a vigilante.
The CCTV footage shows no marks on the man following the incident whatsoever.

[Mrluvaluva]

Photos showing injuries to the alleged murderer of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin are among a mass of evidence that has been made public for the first time.

Nearly 200 documents, photos and audio recordings related to the case have been released - revealing the 17-year-old was shot through the heart at close range.

It also emerged that an FBI expert found crucial evidence in the case - which has sparked civil rights protests and debates over guns laws across the United States - was inconclusive.



The expert said it was impossible to tell if the voice heard screaming for help belonged to Trayvon or his shooter George Zimmerman just before the neighbourhood watch volunteer pulled the trigger.

Zimmerman, who is charged with second-degree murder, says he was being beaten up before he fired the fatal shots and photos released show him with a bloody nose and cuts on his head.

Also among the evidence was a document from Trayvon's autopsy showing he had cannabis in his system at the time of his death on February 26.

Police initially declined to arrest Zimmerman, citing Florida's 'Stand Your Ground' self-defence law.

But a special prosecutor who was subsequently appointed charged him with second-degree murder -which Zimmerman has pleaded not guilty to.

Relatives of both Zimmerman and Martin insist the voice heard screaming for help on a 911 emergency was their family member pleading for his life.

The cries were silenced by a single shot from Zimmerman's Kel Tec 9mm handgun.

Kenneth Marr, a specialist with the FBI's digital evidence laboratory, concluded: "Critical listening and digital signal analysis further revealed that the screaming voice of the 911 call is of insufficient voice quality and duration to conduct a meaningful voice comparison with any other voice samples."

His report added that the audio sample was "produced under an extreme emotional state," making it difficult to analyse.


Sky

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

Photos showing injuries to the alleged murderer of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin are among a mass of evidence that has been made public for the first time.

Nearly 200 documents, photos and audio recordings related to the case have been released - revealing the 17-year-old was shot through the heart at close range.

It also emerged that an FBI expert found crucial evidence in the case - which has sparked civil rights protests and debates over guns laws across the United States - was inconclusive.



The expert said it was impossible to tell if the voice heard screaming for help belonged to Trayvon or his shooter George Zimmerman just before the neighbourhood watch volunteer pulled the trigger.

Zimmerman, who is charged with second-degree murder, says he was being beaten up before he fired the fatal shots and photos released show him with a bloody nose and cuts on his head.

Also among the evidence was a document from Trayvon's autopsy showing he had cannabis in his system at the time of his death on February 26.

Police initially declined to arrest Zimmerman, citing Florida's 'Stand Your Ground' self-defence law.

But a special prosecutor who was subsequently appointed charged him with second-degree murder -which Zimmerman has pleaded not guilty to.

Relatives of both Zimmerman and Martin insist the voice heard screaming for help on a 911 emergency was their family member pleading for his life.

The cries were silenced by a single shot from Zimmerman's Kel Tec 9mm handgun.

Kenneth Marr, a specialist with the FBI's digital evidence laboratory, concluded: "Critical listening and digital signal analysis further revealed that the screaming voice of the 911 call is of insufficient voice quality and duration to conduct a meaningful voice comparison with any other voice samples."

His report added that the audio sample was "produced under an extreme emotional state," making it difficult to analyse.


Sky

Why did he not go to Hospital to get it Checked Proper?

Thats what the USA TV News has said

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by SoBig

He is not a cop. Not even remotely close. Anyone can be part of a neighbourhood watch.

pretty much anyone can be a cop too, it's not like they have very high standards.

[Mrluvaluva]

The neighbourhood watch volunteer who killed an unarmed black teenager in a case that outraged America has been ordered to return to custody.

George Zimmerman has 48 hours to surrender to authorities after the judge ruled he had misled the court at previous hearings.

Zimmerman, 38, says he shot Trayvon Martin in self-defence after the two clashed at a gated community in Sanford in Florida in February. The killing prompted nationwide protests after police initially released him without charge.

Zimmerman, who has pleaded not guilty to a charge of second-degree murder, was originally released on a $150,000 bail bond.

Prosecutors say he misrepresented his financial status by failing to disclose several hundred thousands dollars in an account set up as a legal fund to receive donations from supporters.

The state attorney also says Zimmerman failed to mention that he had another passport when surrendering one to the authorities.

Zimmerman’s lawyer, Mark O'Meara, told the court the failures were the result of an innocent misunderstanding.

But judge Kenneth Lester ordered the bond be revoked and for Zimmerman to report to the Seminole County Sheriff.

Meanwhile, media organisations have applied to the court for access to thousands of pages of evidence in the case.

The prosecution and defence had agreed it should be withheld to protect details of witnesses and statements made by Zimmerman after the shooting.

But Prosecutor Bernie De La Rionda said: "What's occurring, unfortunately, are cases are being tried in the public sector as opposed to in the courtroom.

“We are in a new age with Twitter, Facebook, and all these things I've never heard of before in my career. Everybody gets to find out intimate details about witnesses that never occurred before. Witnesses are going to be reluctant to get involved."

Evidence released so far appears to confirm that Zimmerman suffered injuries consistent with his story that Trayvon Martin had assaulted him.

But 911 calls have revealed that emergency service operators told Zimmerman not to leave his car to pursue the 17-year-old as he walked across the community.


Sky

[BBfanUSA]

Originally Posted by arista

Why did he not go to Hospital to get it Checked Proper?

Thats what the USA TV News has said

maybe because he didn't feel like he had to.

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22824531

There is not a lot of trust in the police in this part of town, after the shooting of an unarmed black teenager, Trayvon Martin, by a volunteer neighbourhood watchman, George Zimmerman.

The police took weeks to arrest him, accepting his story that he thought the teenager was acting suspiciously, and had attacked him.

He was eventually charged with murder and the trial starts today.

[Me. I Am Salman]

We were talking about this in Sociology today.
I hope he gets banged up and rots in there.

[Nedusa]

Unless the jury is predominately black, I think he will be found not guilty...!!!

[lostalex]

From the evidence I've seen, it seems he is innocent. It's a problem with the laws. But you still have to follow the laws. and the laws say it's perfectly fine to carry a gun, and it's perfectly okay to use it if someone attacks you and you fear for your life.

Based on the injuries, it does seem that Trayvon martin attacks george Zimmerman first, and that George Zimmerman did fear for his life. Trayzon had injuring to his knuckles consistent with attacking someone and no other injuries except the bullet wound. Zimmerman had injuries consistant with his story that Martin punched him and he fell and then Martin got on top of him and started beating his head into the ground. Zimmer had injuries to his nose and to the back of his head to back that up.

Obviously Trayvon Martin could not have gotten the injuries to his knuckles After he was shot in the heart, it would have killed him instantly. which means he must have attacked Zimmerman first.

Personally i disagree with carrying guns and i disagree with the stand your ground law, but the court is not there to decide if the law is good or not, the court is there to enforce the law that politicians make.

It doesn't sound like George Zimmerman did anything illegal.

[Roy Mars III]

agreed, Alex

[Omah]

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?sec...rld&id=9141832

June 17, 2013 ( SANFORD, Fla.) -- Prosecutors and George Zimmerman's defense attorneys are returning for a second week of jury selection in Zimmerman's second-degree murder trial.

Defense attorneys are confident they can pick a jury in the Florida county where the neighborhood watch volunteer fatally shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in a gated community last year. Zimmerman is pleading not guilty to second-degree murder, claiming self-defense.

Attorneys resume first-round of questioning Monday of potential jurors about their media exposure to the case that inspired protests nationwide. They've interviewed 41 prospects already.

Prosecutors and defense attorneys are seeking a pool of 40 potential jurors who have been screened for any influence of pretrial publicity before they move to a second round of questioning.

[Omah]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3474181.html

SANFORD, Fla. — A jury of six women, five of them white and the other a minority, was picked Thursday to decide the second-degree murder trial of George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer who says he fatally shot Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black teenager, in self-defense.

Prosecutors have said Zimmerman, 29, racially profiled the 17-year-old Martin as he walked back from a convenience store on a rainy night in February 2012 wearing a dark hooded shirt.

The race and ethnicity of the minority chosen for the jury was not immediately available. Zimmerman identifies himself as Hispanic.

Two of the jurors recently moved to the area – one from Iowa and one from Chicago – and two are involved with rescuing animals as their hobbies.

One juror had a prior arrest, but she said it was disposed of and she thought she was treated fairly. Two jurors have guns in their homes. All of their names have been kept confidential and the panel will be sequestered for the trial.

Opening statements are scheduled for Monday.

The central Florida community of Sanford is in Seminole County, which is 78.5 percent white and 16.5 percent black, roughly mirroring the jury's racial makeup.

Prosecutors and defense attorneys chose the panel of six jurors after almost two weeks of jury selection. In Florida, 12 jurors are required only for criminal trials involving capital cases, when the death penalty is being considered.

Some "jury" .....

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Omah

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3474181.html



Some "jury" .....

what do you think is wrong with the jury?

if anything it sounds like the jury is best for the prosecution, because women are less inclined to support the stand your ground law, right?

Women in general are less supportive of gun laws, so the Trayvon Martin camp should be happy about this jury.

[Omah]

http://www.inquisitr.com/806880/zimm...7eXomjfUXaF.99

The six person George Zimmerman jury is identified as B29, B76, B37, B51, E6 and E40. Four alternate jurors, labeled as E54, E28, B72, and E17, are two white men and two white women. Out of these 10 people only one person, B29, is non-white. She’s labeled as “unknown race” but it’s guessed she’s either African American or Hispanic, with some speculating she’s both.

Some people might argue the Zimmerman jury is racist because it doesn’t accurately represent the area. After all, 29.2 percent of the Sanford population is black. Seven out of 40 potential jurors were completely black, but none were picked for the Zimmerman jury.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Omah

http://www.inquisitr.com/806880/zimm...7eXomjfUXaF.99

and how many hispanic jurors are there? Zimmerman is not white, he is hispanic, and there is how many hispanics on the jury??

You can argue that white jurors are just as racist against hispanics as they are against blacks, so it kind of balances itself out, doesn't it?

Zimmerman is not white, so how is having a majority white jury in his favor? He looks like a fat mexican to me. (not that there's anything wrong with that)

[lostalex]

The Trayvon supporters keep on desperately trying to make it seem like he was killed by a white man. He wasn't killed by a white man, he was killed a by a brown man, an hispanic, a latino.