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BB14 Channel 5's Big Brother: Secrets and Lies (aka Big Brother 14) started June 13th 2013 and was won by Sam Evans. Discuss the series and housemates here. |
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21-08-2013, 02:08 PM | #26 | |||
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I'm still blissfully unaware of what incident you're on about. Her pulling his shorts down?
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21-08-2013, 02:14 PM | #27 | |||
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he makes me sick, acting like a victim
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21-08-2013, 02:16 PM | #28 | ||
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If what happened in the safe house,happened in a public place outside the house then Daley,with or without Hazel pressing charges would have been more than likely arrested and possibly facing such a charge.
Hazel would not have for any reason whatsoever. Bearing in mind this happened on BB and was dealt with at the time, also that Hazel is unlikely to want it taken further then it is likely that at the worst he will get a caution or no charges brought at all this time. He has actually been lucky that it happened where it did and had BB not stepped in quickly one wonders what greater harm may have come from ths incident. |
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21-08-2013, 02:20 PM | #29 | |||
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All are technically criminal assaults by Hazel, but she would say it was part of the playfighting and was thus done with Daley's consent. Equally he will say that what he did - slapping her bum and then grabbing her and pretending he would headbutt her was also with her consent and he will call in evidence the fact that she said "Go for it then" after he said "You don't want to see me when I'm angry". In my view the police are unlikely to be able to convince the CPS to prosecute either Hazel or Daley. I doubt they will even try. Hope that helps. |
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21-08-2013, 02:23 PM | #30 | |||
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What he did is and was a criminal offence. |
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21-08-2013, 02:25 PM | #31 | ||
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Since when did a man putting his hands round a woman's throat in an intimidating and threatening manner equal no case to answer? It is most definitely assault.
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21-08-2013, 02:26 PM | #32 | |||
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21-08-2013, 02:28 PM | #33 | |||
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Daley knew he was in the wrong because he made excuses in the diary room.. "I was tired, and can't handle drink." So if he is making excuses then he did something wrong.
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21-08-2013, 02:31 PM | #34 | |||
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Technically, I can assure you that you're quite wrong. It doesn't come down to consent, it comes down to intent. |
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21-08-2013, 02:31 PM | #35 | |||
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I do think Daley is to blame, but Hazel is not entirely innocent either.
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21-08-2013, 02:31 PM | #36 | ||
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If he had previous he would probably be facing a charge, but if his claims at the beginning of the show (that he's never been in trouble with the police / has a clean record) are true there's no way he'd be getting more than a slap on the wrist.
When I was 10 (ten!!) years old, a 35 year old neighbor punched me full force in the face and almost broke my cheek bone, then slammed me into a wall and kicked me in the side. For drawing a penis in the dirt on his van. He had no criminal record, so all he got was a caution. ...says it all, in my opinion. Apparently you need to do quite a lot to actually be charged with assault. |
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21-08-2013, 02:31 PM | #37 | ||
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21-08-2013, 02:33 PM | #38 | |||
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She looked innocent to me. If a jury decides then she probably looks innocent.
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21-08-2013, 02:34 PM | #39 | |||
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I was under the impression the police need the cooperation of the accuser or they drop any charge.
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21-08-2013, 02:35 PM | #40 | ||
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I doubt the police will charge him, maybe given a warning.
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21-08-2013, 02:35 PM | #41 | ||
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21-08-2013, 02:35 PM | #42 | |||
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Yeah, me too. Hazel has to press charges.
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21-08-2013, 02:35 PM | #43 | |||
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If there was any mileage (or money) in pressing charges on Hazel, Daley's lawyers would have done it already. But there isn't. The police don't have to try to convince the CPS to prosecute. The CPS will prosecute if there is enough evidence to bring the case to court. I hope that helps. |
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21-08-2013, 02:36 PM | #44 | |||
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God it wouldnt get to Crown Court, nobody was murdered
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21-08-2013, 02:36 PM | #45 | |||
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21-08-2013, 02:36 PM | #46 | ||
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In the UK, the authorities can pursue a charge without the victim's consent, if they have evidence and feel that the aggressor poses a threat to other people. Charges don't have to be "pressed". For the same reason the second statement is true: it's the intent of the aggressor that matters, as that's what poses the future risk. |
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21-08-2013, 02:38 PM | #47 | |||
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21-08-2013, 02:39 PM | #48 | ||
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Only if the description of the series of events depends on the testimony of the victim. If there's another source, such as other witnesses or (in this case) video footage of the incident, they wouldn't need it to continue with charges.
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21-08-2013, 02:40 PM | #49 | ||
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21-08-2013, 02:41 PM | #50 | ||
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Either he is trying to stay in the limelight by lying about this
Or Hazel is by pressing charges now to try to stay in the limelight Either way I dont much care anymore, but I still don't think Hazel did anything wrong at the time. If shes using it now to get attention though, then I do think shes in the wrong. Edit. Hmm...just seen hazel wouldnt necessarily have to press charges I would think though that the charges would have come about sooner if it wasnt to do with what she decided.
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