[arista]

By Emily Ashton, Whitehall Corresponden

[Two-thirds of Ed Miliband’s Euro candidates
have union links, it emerged last
night — sparking a new row over who runs Labour.
Of the 70 standing in next year’s
Euro elections, 46 are backed by unions.
And ten out of the 11 candidates
who are most likely to win are
backed by unions.

The Tories seized on yesterday’s
list of candidates as proof Mr Miliband
is still in the pocket of militant union
bosses such as Unite’s Len McCluskey.

The Labour leader promised to water down
the unions’ links with Labour after the row
over alleged vote-rigging by Unite in Falkirk.
But the list will heap further pressure
on Mr Miliband — who is on holiday
in France — after The Sun revealed
last week unions have donated £120million
to Labour in the past 12 years. ]


from the sun+ online

[Kizzy]

Is Eddie privatising the labour party?...... methinks he is.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Is Eddie privatising the labour party?...... methinks he is.

All the Public want is to be live on TV
Not shut away

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

All the Public want is to be live on TV
Not shut away

I don't get what you mean here,
more transparency in who funds ALL parties?

Ooh, would Dave go for that? He has a few skeletons in his closet too, he won't want that much sniffing around

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I don't get what you mean here,
more transparency in who funds ALL parties?

Ooh, would Dave go for that? He has a few skeletons in his closet too, he won't want that much sniffing around

No Transparency with Unions and Labour is whats needed



Thats what Ed spins to avert his Corruption in Unions
but this is about Labour Unions.
Not Conservative-LibDem.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

No Transparency with Unions and Labour is whats needed



Thats what Ed spins to avert his Corruption in Unions
but this is about Labour Unions.
Not Conservative-LibDem.

Ah so labour have to have total transparency but condem don't? but unfair that....

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Ah so labour have to have total transparency but condem don't? but unfair that....

No Kizzy
this thread is about Unions and Labour Corruption.

This Forum is well Balanced

[joeysteele]

I don't get this,the Labour party is a massive part of the Union movement,there would not have been a Labour party without them.

Maybe the funding does need looking at but it's certainly clear that when Labour is in Govt, the Unions moan at them as much as they doe the Conservatives and even this coalition.
So it would seem once in Govt, Labour does not, and never has done really, give in to the Unions lock, stock and barrel.
Even in 1978/9 less than a year before the elction was due, it was the fact that Labour 'refused' to give in to Union demands that led to the Labour Govt being brought down.

Can the Conservatives claim the same that it does not and never would give in to big business and their demands and influences.

The funding for all parties needs to be looked at,but union contributions are made on behalf of many thousands and millions of workers.
Contributions to the Conservative party comes mainly from boardroom decisions,whether their workers like that or not.

Ed Miliband is right to be looking at the make up of union funding and only those who want to donate to Labour should do so.
The same scrutiny though should come, and if it won't come voluntarily then it should be forced to be so, for the donations to the Conservative party too.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't get this,the Labour party is a massive part of the Union movement,there would not have been a Labour party without them.

Maybe the funding does need looking at but it's certainly clear that when Labour is in Govt, the Unions moan at them as much as they doe the Conservatives and even this coalition.
So it would seem once in Govt, Labour does not, and never has done really, give in to the Unions lock, stock and barrel.
Even in 1978/9 less than a year before the elction was due, it was the fact that Labour 'refused' to give in to Union demands that led to the Labour Govt being brought down.

Can the Conservatives claim the same that it does not and never would give in to big business and their demands and influences.

The funding for all parties needs to be looked at,but union contributions are made on behalf of many thousands and millions of workers.
Contributions to the Conservative party comes mainly from boardroom decisions,whether their workers like that or not.

Ed Miliband is right to be looking at the make up of union funding and only those who want to donate to Labour should do so.
The same scrutiny though should come, and if it won't come voluntarily then it should be forced to be so, for the donations to the Conservative party too.

Yes he has Many Live Debates to Come.


but this is about Elections being Rigged by Unions

Not about funding of all.


The House of Lords is Over flowing
far to many get paid then go home - What the Feck is that.

[joeysteele]

Labour generally though always had union members as candidates for elections anyway. if you are donating the funds the Unions do to Labour then representation is pefectly in order to try to achieve.
In all situations things will be mismanaged and some problems will occur.

It is wrong to bypass any electoral process but no matter what candidate Labour has anywhere, it is still in the end the voters who will decide if they get to Parliament or not as an MP, not the Unions.

I think Ed Miliband is doing the right thing, I will wait to see what he proposes at the party conference but I applaud that he is even willing to look at the issue never mind take it on.
That is far more than can be said for David Cameron and the Conservatives and if anyone thinks big business doesn't get taken into consideration when sometimes selecting Conservative candidates then that is also misguided.

[arista]

"what he proposes at the party conference"


Yes and all the sneaked out audio
that he wants hidden from the public.

[arista]

GMB Slashes Labour's Union Funding By £1m

"A leading union is slashing its affiliation funds to Labour
by more than £1m in the wake of the row over party reforms."

Labour is reported to be (Radio 5) in £12million Debt

http://news.sky.com/story/1136890/gm...-funding-by-1m


http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...-party-funding
Link for Kizzy.