[Northern Monkey]

She is a full on **** stirrer but she is a good housemate for sure.

[MarcusMel]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

Sucking face in hot tubs with strangers on national tv, getting rappers you clearly detest to lick your nipples and constant talk of sex parties and snide bitching, whilst admitting a "who gives a ******* about anyone but me" attitude is likely not the best publicity for cupcake venture. Her lifestyle choice is of no consequence to me and will not affect my work tomorrow, but she portrays this image of herself as part of a television show that I watch and I have thus formed an opinion, a factor intended by the makers of the show, as a crucial component of said show is that viewers call in to vote based on their opinions.

You have made me chuckle though by drawing a parallel between my opinion of Luisa and the Samaritans/Jews/Christians. Clearly a fan of understatement...

Respect to the chuckle!

However I find it odd that you think Luisa detests Dappy. If she detested Dappy it is doubtful she would be playing the truth or dare game with him. It is good that you form an opinion, I wonder if opionions are based on gut reaction or on deduction. You have the opinion that X detests Y based on the fact that they had an arguement! How many married couples must detest each other if that was true!

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by MarcusMel

Respect to the chuckle!

However I find it odd that you think Luisa detests Dappy. If she detested Dappy it is doubtful she would be playing the truth or dare game with him. It is good that you form an opinion, I wonder if opionions are based on gut reaction or on deduction. You have the opinion that X detests Y based on the fact that they had an arguement! How many married couples must detest each other if that was true!

During said argument, Luisa called him a little wannabe gangster, berated his IQ, called him a pig, and stated his mother should be ashamed of him. When angered, I rarely burst into fluent Russian as I have no prior knowledge of the language. Luisa did not struggle to produce these clearly held opinions of Dappy. Hence I deduce she has little respect for him and will not be meeting him for cocktails in Sloane Square once the show is over. She also was repeatedly filmed bitching about him with Jasmine in bed, stating how she really feels, despite her antics in the hot-tub when drunk. She is not Dappy's friend and does not really wish to be, but will keep him on-side until he is no longer a useful ally. That is my deduction.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Josy

Luisa knew fine well that another argument would happen that's why she went straight from Jim to Linda and **** stirred.

**** stirrers should be made to lick the spoon

Jim asked Luisa to ask Linda...and because she did it is all Luisa's fault? Not one mention that Jim is actually the **** stirrer because he asked her to do it...oh no.
Once again, nothing is ever Jim's fault.

Tell me you are taking the piss Josy.

[Sophiee]

I don't really think in this instance she intended to. jim told her to ask about frank carson's dressing room, she was curious so she did. it was linda who blew it all out of proportion and made it into some massive deal.

[MarcusMel]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

During said argument, Luisa called him a little wannabe gangster, berated his IQ, called him a pig, and stated his mother should be ashamed of him. ...snip... She is not Dappy's friend and does not really wish to be, but will keep him on-side until he is no longer a useful ally. That is my deduction.

Dappy and Luisa made up and have since been seen getting along reasonably, I take this to mean that Luisa and possibly Dappy do not hold further anger/grudge for each other’s emotional manipulation to hurt the other during their prolonged misunderstanding of opinions about behaviour. This aspect of Luisa's personality causes me to feel respect at the ability to not hold a grudge.

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by MarcusMel

Dappy and Luisa made up and have since been seen getting along reasonably, I take this to mean that Luisa and possibly Dappy do not hold further anger/grudge for each other’s emotional manipulation to hurt the other during their prolonged misunderstanding of opinions about behaviour. This aspect of Luisa's personality causes me to feel respect at the ability to not hold a grudge.

She has no room for concern about others' opinions or harsh words as she is completely preoccupied with herself. It's a miracle she even remembers the other housemates names when there are so many mirrors in there to distract her.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Sophiee

I don't really think in this instance she intended to. jim told her to ask about frank carson's dressing room, she was curious so she did. it was linda who blew it all out of proportion and made it into some massive deal.

Josy thinks it was Luisa's fault...you think it was Linda's fault.

Once again, nothing is never Jim's fault. He said the words "ask Linda about Frank Carson's dressing room".

But it was nothing to do with Jimbo. It was Luisa's and Linda's fault.

I feel like I'm living in some odd fantasy world.

[MarcusMel]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

She has no room for concern about others' opinions or harsh words as she is completely preoccupied with herself. It's a miracle she even remembers the other housemates names when there are so many mirrors in there to distract her.

Ok now back that opinion up with things you have seen Luisa do. Is it a real opinion or just a fun idea thinking that the post would get me upset?



Goodnight

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by MarcusMel

Ok now back that opinion up with things you have seen Luisa do. Is it a real opinion or just a fun idea thinking that the post would get me upset?



Goodnight

Luisa wanted champagne, Luisa drank champagne.
Luisa wanted to wear make-up, Luisa drank make-up.
Luisa has stated that she is not bothered about anyone else or their opinion unless it is beneficial to her.
Luisa was exactly the same in the Apprentice.

Deffo not trying to upset you, and unsure why my opinion on luisa would upset you. Actually what I think at the moment. Good chat. Good night.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

Josy thinks it was Luisa's fault...you think it was Linda's fault.

Once again, nothing is never Jim's fault. He said the words "ask Linda about Frank Carson's dressing room".

But it was nothing to do with Jimbo. It was Luisa's and Linda's fault.

I feel like I'm living in some odd fantasy world.

Don't worry that's normal for this time of year

[Josy]

Originally Posted by jet

Josy thinks it was Luisa's fault...you think it was Linda's fault.

Once again, nothing is never Jim's fault. He said the words "ask Linda about Frank Carson's dressing room".

But it was nothing to do with Jimbo. It was Luisa's and Linda's fault.

I feel like I'm living in some odd fantasy world.

I never said the argument was Luisa's fault? the argument had already been started at that point by LINDA but Luisa was still **** stirring..

I have posted numerous times tonight that Jim was in the wrong bringing up what he did but Linda still started the argument, so how about you admitting that rather than blame everything on Jim because you dislike him...

[jet]

Originally Posted by Josy

I never said the argument was Luisa's fault? the argument had already been started at that point by LINDA but Luisa was still **** stirring..

I have posted numerous times tonight that Jim was in the wrong bringing up what he did but Linda still started the argument, so how about you admitting that rather than blame everything on Jim because you dislike him...

If you read my posts then you would know I was referring to the 'Frank Carson' incident only. You said in your opening post:

Luisa knew fine well that another argument would happen that's why she went straight from Jim to Linda and **** stirred.

**** stirrers should be made to lick the spoon

I responded:

Jim asked Luisa to ask Linda...and because she did it is all Luisa's fault? Not one mention that Jim is actually the **** stirrer because he asked her to do it...oh no.
Once again, nothing is ever Jim's fault.

Tell me you are taking the piss Josy.

If you weren't talking about the Frank Carson incident then what where you talking about?

If you still insist Jim was not to blame for asking Luisa to do it in the first place, then in no way will I feel inclined to tell you what I thought about the very start of the argument.

[Mystic Mock]

When Dappy can't do it Luisa can!

[Sophiee]

Originally Posted by jet

Josy thinks it was Luisa's fault...you think it was Linda's fault.

Once again, nothing is never Jim's fault. He said the words "ask Linda about Frank Carson's dressing room".

But it was nothing to do with Jimbo. It was Luisa's and Linda's fault.

I feel like I'm living in some odd fantasy world.

oh no, I most definitely think it was jim's fault. I can't stand the man and I believe he starts the majority of arguments/bad feeling between himself and others. I just don't see luisa did anything at all wrong in this situation .

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by jet

Josy thinks it was Luisa's fault...you think it was Linda's fault.

Once again, nothing is never Jim's fault. He said the words "ask Linda about Frank Carson's dressing room".

But it was nothing to do with Jimbo. It was Luisa's and Linda's fault.

I feel like I'm living in some odd fantasy world.

It's the Aaron complex where Jim Davidson is placed on a pedestal where simultaneously he can do no wrong and everyone wrongs him. Like ffs he planted that seed with Luisa and it was an awful seed

[Rachael1904]

The girl is big wooden spoon. She spreads gossip in that house quicker than I hit send on my emails.

[Jake.]

He told her to go and ask, so she did?

[Munchkins]

Originally Posted by Jake.

He told her to go and ask, so she did?

FFS Jake, theres no need to go around spouting the truth for people to see go and spout some fabricated rubbish to demonize Luisa instead

[Jake.]