[Seraphim]

I postulate that Jim and Liz both nominated Sam so Liz will go. Liz wants to go, and Jim needs her to go for the following reasons:

1. He knows he's stuck in the house because of public support.

2. Liz is an easy target for the other housemates to nominate, because she doesn't hold grudges over the nominations, she doesn't place retaliatory votes, and she hasn't got cronies she can fight back with.

Without Liz, everyone has to choose someone else, thus increasing the chance of whoever Jim nominates going out, because they'll be up against him and one other person. All Jim needs to do is nominate Linda and/or Luisa next time, and with a second nomination against either of them, they might go out. It's possible he might throw the cat among the pigeons next week and take another side-step by placing another tactical vote. Whether his end goal is to get out, or to stay in for longer is anyone's guess.

I love that he voted for Sam. What's amazing is that he knew which housemate to choose. Were he and Liz in cahoots???? Had either of them sussed out how the other would vote? Or is it just that they're both the smartest cookies in the house and chose this strategy to meet their goals independently?

I've never watched CBB before, so I am not sure what the rules are.. What did Jim mean by saying that BB wouldn't allow him his first choice of nomination? Why wouldn't they? Was he just bluffing? hehehe

[Niamh.]

I don't think Liz knew that Jim was going to choose Sam, I do believe that Lizs reasons for voting Sam were pretty reasonable and very believable

[Josy]

None of them knew who the other was going to vote imo

Was everyone else in cahoots in nominating Jim and Liz?

[Seraphim]

I agree that Liz seemed genuine, even though Sam said that she had spent time with Liz, and had done her make-up on eviction nights. However, why else would Jim nominate her? It seems a bit of a coincidence, and the whole house was flabberghasted.

The others didn't have to be in cahoots to nominate Jim and Liz: they're both more sedate, neither makes a big effort to fit into the group and it's now a cert that they'll both get loads of votes.

[Z]

Well the others seem to have voted for Jim and Liz en masse because they're easy targets and it's safer to nominate how everyone else is nominating because there's less chance of a retaliation nomination. Jim's reasons for voting Sam were perfectly valid - he said you wouldn't notice if she wasn't there, and it's completely true, the girl has sat there in near silence the entire time she's been in there. Why was she so offended by that? Why were any of them so offended by that? He didn't say anything nasty about her.

I don't think Jim and Liz were in cahoots at all. I think Jim voted Sam because he's not really that arsed about voting for Linda and really just wants to be out of the house, he didn't want to pit himself against Linda in an eviction because of the added tension that would bring and he knew that he and Liz would doubtless be up and he probably figured that whoever he and Liz nominated would likely go up for eviction with them so he nominated Luisa and Sam. Liz voted for Sam because she wants to leave the house and she saw that Jim and Sam were the two most popular people in the last vote.

[abhorson]

NO.

[Seraphim]

Thanks for the replies, particularly from Zee.

[MTVN]

Interesting theory, that would certainly make Jim's nomination smarter than I've given credit for

[Z]

I think your theory makes more sense if Jim DOESN'T want Liz to go - he knows the two of them will consistently be put up so he's trying to get other people up against them and out. Jim seems to understand why the public are voting for him in their droves so I think perhaps he'll continue to vote unpredictably if he survives.

If Liz goes, however, the housemates are going to have to change who they vote for anyway. All of the remaining housemates apart from Jim nominated Liz this time around. If she goes, they still have to nominate two people every time they're asked to nominate. Suddenly the big group is going to have to turn in on itself. I wouldn't be surprised if Dappy and Linda are the first to be turfed out if that were to happen.