[arista]

South Iraq
getting ready to fight Isis
Children as well.


Backwards nations

[Nedusa]

The West can't really get involved in this latest conflict as it is sectarian in nature and the west cannot be seen to be taking sides against the Sunni's or the Shiite's.

Difficult one for Obama this as he needs to talk to Iran who are one of the main regional powers. Israel must be fuming, even the UK are opening their Embassy in Tehran.

what an absolute farce the middle east has become







.

[MTVN]

Some good points by Robert Fisk on the things that we won't hear Western leaders talk about:

n The story of Iraq and the story of Syria are the same – politically, militarily and journalistically: two leaders, one Shia, the other Alawite, fighting for the existence of their regimes against the power of a growing Sunni Muslim international army.

n While the Americans support the wretched Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and his elected Shia government in Iraq, the same Americans still demand the overthrow of Bashar al-Assad of Syria and his regime, even though both leaders are now brothers-in-arms against the victors of Mosul and Tikrit.

n The Croesus-like wealth of Qatar may soon be redirected away from the Muslim rebels of Syria and Iraq to the Assad regime, out of fear and deep hatred for its Sunni brothers in Saudi Arabia (which may invade Qatar if it becomes very angry).

n We all know of the “deep concern” of Washington and London at the territorial victories of the Islamists – and the utter destruction of all that America and Britain bled and died for in Iraq. No one, however, will feel as much of this “deep concern” as Shia Iran and Assad of Syria and Maliki of Iraq, who must regard the news from Mosul and Tikrit as a political and military disaster. Just when Syrian military forces were winning the war for Assad, tens of thousands of Iraqi-based militants may now turn on the Damascus government, before or after they choose to advance on Baghdad.

n No one will care now how many hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have been slaughtered since 2003 because of the fantasies of Bush and Blair. These two men destroyed Saddam’s regime to make the world safe and declared that Iraq was part of a titanic battle against “Islamofascism”. Well, they lost. Remember that the Americans captured and recaptured Mosul to crush the power of Islamist fighters. They fought for Fallujah twice. And both cities have now been lost again to the Islamists. The armies of Bush and Blair have long gone home, declaring victory.

n Under Obama, Saudi Arabia will continue to be treated as a friendly “moderate” in the Arab world, even though its royal family is founded upon the Wahhabist convictions of the Sunni Islamists in Syria and Iraq – and even though millions of its dollars are arming those same fighters. Thus does Saudi power both feed the monster in the deserts of Syria and Iraq and cosy up to the Western powers that protect it.

n We should also remember that Maliki’s military attempts to retake Mosul are likely to be ferocious and bloody, just as Assad’s battles to retake cities have proved to be. The refugees fleeing Mosul are more frightened of Shia government revenge than they are of the Sunni jihadists who have captured their city.

n We will all be told to regard the new armed “caliphate” as a “terror nation”. Abu Mohamed al-Adnani, the Isis spokesman, is intelligent, warning against arrogance, talking of an advance on Baghdad when he may be thinking of Damascus. Isis is largely leaving the civilians of Mosul unharmed.

n Finally, we will be invited to regard the future as a sectarian war when it will be a war between Muslim sectarians and Muslim non-sectarians. The “terror” bit will be provided by the arms we send to all sides.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...a-9533396.html

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

The West can't really get involved in this latest conflict as it is sectarian in nature and the west cannot be seen to be taking sides against the Sunni's or the Shiite's.

Difficult one for Obama this as he needs to talk to Iran who are one of the main regional powers. Israel must be fuming, even the UK are opening their Embassy in Tehran.

what an absolute farce the middle east has become







.

America has put troops in a nation near Iraq
so if the Embassy staff are attacked they can save them
Unlike US Libya Staff that were killed



Its when he can drone kill them, is what they are debating
in America


But the Problem is they (N. Iraq) want Isis in their towns
so Public would be Killed - Murdered by USA Drone bombers

[arista]

Their America Auto Drone Bombers
will also Murder the Public

No Fecking General talks about
the Public killed in Error by USA Drone Bombers
thats strange?

[arista]

USA so far saying they are sending 300 Special Forces.
ref: SkyNewsHD Live


That is much better than using Drone Bombers
that will murder More Public while killing some Isis.

[arista]

Isis take over another town

[arista]

[Nasser Muthana tweeted: 'UK is afraid I come back with skills I've gained.'
He also posted pictures of bombs and weapons he has made
Brother Aseel Muthana has also used social media to brag about beheadings
Aseel says online he is willing to be a 'martyr' and won't return to the UK
Their father says the brothers should be brought back to UK and jailed]


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz36M7nqiAG

[arista]

[President Barack Obama has approved airstrikes in Iraq, as he confirmed US planes had dropped aid to Iraqis trapped on a mountain by Islamist fighters.
Three aircraft delivered food and water and left the drop zone after 15 minutes, according to the Pentagon.
Mr Obama said he had agreed to targeted strikes - if needed - to protect US citizens working in Irbil, and also to prevent a potential "genocide" of the Yazidi people.
He stressed there was no intention of sending in any troops. ]


So Obama
is giving aid to some.
And some Air Strikes?




http://news.sky.com/story/1315089/ob...-iraq-genocide

[arista]

US Strikes ISIS Artillery In Northern Iraq

Two US fighter jets drop bombs on Islamist militants after Barack Obama vowed to protect Americans and prevent a "genocide".




http://news.sky.com/story/1315410/us...-northern-iraq


Will America get attacked soon?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

US Strikes ISIS Artillery In Northern Iraq

Two US fighter jets drop bombs on Islamist militants after Barack Obama vowed to protect Americans and prevent a "genocide".




http://news.sky.com/story/1315410/us...-northern-iraq


Will America get attacked soon?

They've also dropped food and supplies for Yazidis, Christians and other groups targeted by Isis.

[Crimson Dynamo]

and they are all doing it in the name of their particular made up deity

perhaps if we could teach them there are no gods instead of bombing them they all might evolve quicker

[Crimson Dynamo]

oh hang on we need to do that to the USA first

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and they are all doing it in the name of their particular made up deity

perhaps if we could teach them there are no gods instead of bombing them they all might evolve quicker

Good luck with that...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

They've also dropped food and supplies for Yazidis, Christians and other groups targeted by Isis.

Yes that was was on my post
yesterday.


ISIS has said they will attack America
do they have sleepers
in America?

[jackc1806]

The world is a very scary place.

[arista]

Originally Posted by jackc1806

The world is a very scary place.

But Bush /Blair had no reason to wreck Iraq
with that illegal invasion




So USA -UK has made matters worse

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes that was was on my post
yesterday.


ISIS has said they will attack America
do they have sleepers
in America?

Sorry arista, I missed it.

It's entirely possible that they have sleepers in the US. It's also entirely possible that the CIA know where most of them are.

Originally Posted by jackc1806

The world is a very scary place.

Ain't that the truth, Jack...

[arista]

[lostalex]

i didn't support the Iraq war in 2003, but i definitely support these airstrikes. It is the right thing to do.

[Kizzy]

It's exactly the same people orchestrating now as there was then.

http://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/conte...ad-us-war-iraq

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i didn't support the Iraq war in 2003, but i definitely support these airstrikes. It is the right thing to do.

So America is now the World Police
and yesterdays bombs just hit a load of armed trucks
did not kill many ISIS troops

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i didn't support the Iraq war in 2003, but i definitely support these airstrikes. It is the right thing to do.

Me too. Totally the right thing to do. The humanitarian part of the operation is saving countless lives. If people can't see the need for this op then they've really not acquainted themselves with the problem.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's exactly the same people orchestrating now as there was then.

http://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/conte...ad-us-war-iraq

You're reading the Jewish press now? LOL... good for you. Blame Israel! It's really fashionable at the moment.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

oh hang on we need to do that to the USA first

dare you to try!

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

You're reading the Jewish press now? LOL... good for you. Blame Israel! It's really fashionable at the moment.

I read lot's of things livia, are the Jewish press blaming Israel?