[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Ofcourse Matthews "MANAGER" is going to say this.

Mods can we please stop these constant frigging fix threads or limit or merge them they are doing everyones heads in.

OP probably didn't even vote to save Matthew just like the rest of you claiming it was a fix so get over it.

[Locke.]

Would make it even funnier if it was a fix so we can only hope so

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

I didn't say they did rig the votes did I??

But they certainly rigged the editing to keep Ash in there, that was plain to see, which still makes it a "fix"...

No it doesn't lol.

Giving someone a better edit is not a fix if infact they did do that, Maybe Ash kept his head down because he didn't want to go (tactics).

I thought Matthew was shown a lot more this week and him and Marcs relationship was nice to watch.

Matthew even had his birthday and stood up to Helen in the morgue.

[rusticgal]

I don't think it was a fix. I think people read so much of 'Ash is a goner' and with polls and betting odds saying he was a dead cert to go....everyone just became complacent. Why, if you disliked Ash would you bother to vote if you read that....you wouldn't and that's why he stayed. Channel 5 may be responsible for favourable editing, as they have done this week, but they couldn't risk 'fixing the votes'...

[Amy Jade]

I an undecided now at which I find more funny, Matthew going and Ashleigh's plan back firing on here OR the over reaction from people about it.

Matthew went because of 3 reasons

1. Ash haters got complacent and decided it was a cert he would go so they decided not to vote.

2. He was bitchy, moaned all the time and looked down his nose at people, he also never put any blame on himself in the Helen argument when realistically they were as bad as each other. That never goes down well. I won't over look Ash being good looking but plenty of good looking guys have gone for being egotistical.

3. Ashleigh used him as a pawn and although this forum holds her in high estimation most BB fans do not and to show this they decided to try and evict one of her allies.

No fixing at all and if half as many people moaning and making up theories voted then Matthew would have stayed.

[Anothercat]

I wonder if people thought Ash was so sure to go they didn't bother voting

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Anothercat

I wonder if people thought Ash was so sure to go they didn't bother voting

That's exactly what happened.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Verbal

Rigging: To manipulate dishonestly for personal gain

So why would they do that?

To keep Ash in?

To make money?

That would still make it an illegal act

Big Brother have been manipulating this series since day one lol...

They always have selective editing, but this last week it seems they were trying extremely hard to show Helen & Ash in a good light & Ashleigh/Matthew in a bad one. That isn't illegal, but it isn't exactly honest either...

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

No it doesn't lol.

Giving someone a better edit is not a fix if infact they did do that, Maybe Ash kept his head down because he didn't want to go (tactics).

I thought Matthew was shown a lot more this week and him and Marcs relationship was nice to watch.

Matthew even had his birthday and stood up to Helen in the morgue.

Of course selective editing is 'fixing' it, as it always has been. But as I said above they have been trying their best to show a different side of Helen & have made Ashleigh out to be the villain of the piece. It is obvious they want their 'chosen one' Helen to stay in at all costs, despite her golden pass to the final she has had upteen warnings & they want the backlash over her to be forgotten about... And a showmance with Ash is the icing on top of their ****ty cake too...

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Big Brother have been manipulating this series since day one lol...

They always have selective editing, but this last week it seems they were trying extremely hard to show Helen & Ash in a good light & Ashleigh/Matthew in a bad one. That isn't illegal, but it isn't exactly honest either...



Of course selective editing is 'fixing' it, as it always has been. But as I said above they have been trying their best to show a different side of Helen & have made Ashleigh out to be the villain of the piece. It is obvious they want their 'chosen one' Helen to stay in at all costs, despite her golden pass to the final she has had upteen warnings & they want the backlash over her to be forgotten about... And a showmance with Ash is the icing on top of their ****ty cake too...

Not a fix its called manipulating and without live feed you cannot even confirm any of this is true.

Just pointless.

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Not a fix its called manipulating and without live feed you cannot even confirm any of this is true.

Just pointless.

Manipulating the show so it effects the eviction results is a fix

And you cannot confirm that this isn't true, so your comments are therefore equally pointless...

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Manipulating the show so it effects the eviction results is a fix

And you cannot confirm that this isn't true, so your comments are therefore equally pointless...

99% of people discussing Matthews eviction are claiming its a voting fix not manipulation of editing that's not the main talking point.

You cannot say 100% fact they are mipulating the show as there is no live feed.

Its depressing how serious people get into their conspiracy theories actually its embarrassing.

No one has proof of anything and never will so may aswell just shut up talking about it.

[Anglo]

The integrity of the show is entirely lost which is why the audience is dwindling.

The lack of transparency in the counting of the votes is worrying. They feed us tidbits like "it was the closest run thing ever" . why don't they spell it out, the precise number of votes for each evictee?

They should do like they had to do on Strictly about six years ago and introduce a judges' panel for half the result. That couldn't be fixed. The BOTs audience would be a good place to start.

Also, if bookmakers are indeed making multiple calls, why not limit calls to, say, maximum five per household and from private numbers only?

[Ellen]

It wasnt a fix. It is hard when your fave or one of your fave's goes but basically more people voted for Matthew to go than any other HM nominated. Simple as that.

[Toy Soldier]

I think a large part of the answer has to be... many of those who can't stand the likes of Ash / Helen and co tuned out 10+ days ago and simply aren't even watching any more, let alone picking up the phone to vote. This has been compounded by the fact that a lot of those who dislike that group threw up their banners for Jale as an alternative and ended up being completely let down by her... the simpering coward spends all day now licking their boots.

I don't like Ash... I didn't bother to vote him out. I literally don't give a stuff who goes / stays / whatever happens this series. I absolutely despise everything about Helen, but if her immunity was removed and she was up next week, I still wouldn't waste the time, money or energy it takes to lift the phone.

The series is a complete flop. The people who LIKE Helen's group are still watching and voting... I don't think many other people are. Most of that group will stay until the end and Winston will win. Can we please just fast forward to that, quickly move on to Celeb, and forget that any of this ever happened?

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Big Brother have been manipulating this series since day one lol...

They always have selective editing, but this last week it seems they were trying extremely hard to show Helen & Ash in a good light & Ashleigh/Matthew in a bad one. That isn't illegal, but it isn't exactly honest either...



Of course selective editing is 'fixing' it, as it always has been. But as I said above they have been trying their best to show a different side of Helen & have made Ashleigh out to be the villain of the piece. It is obvious they want their 'chosen one' Helen to stay in at all costs, despite her golden pass to the final she has had upteen warnings & they want the backlash over her to be forgotten about... And a showmance with Ash is the icing on top of their ****ty cake too...

Could you explain to me what selective editing is and why they would do that?

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Manipulating the show so it effects the eviction results is a fix

And you cannot confirm that this isn't true, so your comments are therefore equally pointless...

At least you concede that your argument is pointless

[MrMinaj]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Ofcourse Matthews "MANAGER" is going to say this.

Mods can we please stop these constant frigging fix threads or limit or merge them they are doing everyones heads in.

OP probably didn't even vote to save Matthew just like the rest of you claiming it was a fix so get over it.

also the fact you can be THE favorite to win and STILL be evicted using 'vote to evict', so nothing fishy in that.

[*mazedsalv**]

It was NOT a fix. If caught they'd have to pay millions, now, tell me, is it worth paying millions just to save Ash? Come on guys, please.

[arista]

Originally Posted by iiamlukee

according to someone on facebook ash was 50% ahead before the lines was closed

It was a Close Vote

No Fix.



I wish mods would merge all these

And Lock some

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I think a large part of the answer has to be... many of those who can't stand the likes of Ash / Helen and co tuned out 10+ days ago and simply aren't even watching any more, let alone picking up the phone to vote. This has been compounded by the fact that a lot of those who dislike that group threw up their banners for Jale as an alternative and ended up being completely let down by her... the simpering coward spends all day now licking their boots.

I don't like Ash... I didn't bother to vote him out. I literally don't give a stuff who goes / stays / whatever happens this series. I absolutely despise everything about Helen, but if her immunity was removed and she was up next week, I still wouldn't waste the time, money or energy it takes to lift the phone.

The series is a complete flop. The people who LIKE Helen's group are still watching and voting... I don't think many other people are. Most of that group will stay until the end and Winston will win. Can we please just fast forward to that, quickly move on to Celeb, and forget that any of this ever happened?

Great post. I think what you say is a very likely part of what happened.

[Josy]

Lol at people trying to think up mental excuses.

Matt got the most votes to evict, nothing more nothing less.

[AarynGriesfan]

Well this series just went down the gutter. First Matthew is gone Ashleigh will go next then we will be left with only houseguests who have their head up Helen's ass. Yawn at least BBUS is on now.

[beardedbloke]

Originally Posted by Anglo

The integrity of the show is entirely lost which is why the audience is dwindling.

The lack of transparency in the counting of the votes is worrying. They feed us tidbits like "it was the closest run thing ever" . why don't they spell it out, the precise number of votes for each evictee?

They should do like they had to do on Strictly about six years ago and introduce a judges' panel for half the result. That couldn't be fixed. The BOTs audience would be a good place to start.

Also, if bookmakers are indeed making multiple calls, why not limit calls to, say, maximum five per household and from private numbers only?

good post. Where there's money, there's the potential for fraud and those posters who are saying 'there was no fix' are very naive. The bookies did indeed 'make a killing'.

[Kizzy]

I'm a bit suspicious, the show is sponsored by supercasino... maybe there is a benefit for them to manipulate the voting?

[Samwell]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm a bit suspicious, the show is sponsored by supercasino... maybe there is a benefit for them to manipulate the voting?

They also sponsored last years BB. Has there been unusual evicitions the last two years, and not earlier?