[lostalex]

Originally Posted by the truth

there are varying degrees of criminality for different types and stages of rape, so your black and white viewpoint is not only wrong but dangerously wrong. if sex is consensual and goes on 5 seconds longer than 1 perosn wanted? wheres the line? is that the same as smashing a person with a crow bar , dragging them to the woods, raping them and leaving them for dead? erm no. now try and find some balance to your statements instead of false outrage

if it goes on 1 second longer than wanted than it's just as bad as any other kind of rape. and dawkins argument doesn't even make sense. i would argue that date rape is actually worse than being raped by a stranger because it's being perpetrated by someone you trust.

just out of curiosity "the truth" how long are you willing to be raped for before YOU call it rape? how long can i **** your ass against your will before YOU consider it rape? i can **** you for 5 seconds according to you and i'm not a rapist? well get over here then. i could use those 5 seconds.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

if it goes on 1 second longer than wanted than it's just as bad

Harsh. Do they not get a couple of seconds to pull out?

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by the truth

its all different....there are a vast number of different situations and levels of criminality, so youre wrong

It's you're wrong not youre wrong actually.

And my point agrees with your posts so not sure why you say I am wrong ??




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[GypsyGoth]

Just because it's called date rape, it could still do more damage to you than getting raped at knife point.

[coffee]

I wish date rape was called something else, I thin a lot of people don't know what it is or don't think it's as serious as RAPE. I feel like a lot of people think it's dumb and girls wanting attention or lying about an ex boyfriend or guy who went on a date with them raped them and it's not fair. I've actually had a friend of mine who is a girl tell me that she doesn't believe girls were actually raped by a guy she liked her words were something like "I think the guy patched her after it and she got ragin and told everyone she was raped cos she actually just got pumped & dumped" It's so sad that people think this way :/

[Kizzy]

I see that coffee, and the question will be at what point did it not become consensual,
Like the song goes 'you know you want it'... is it a justification for date rape?
When it boils down to it that view really is just his opinion, it's quite insensitive to those who have been raped to put them on some sliding scale, but it does make you think.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

He's stating the obvious IMO, but doing it in an effort to wind people up and appear intelligent. Twat as always.

This tbh.Why even put crap like that on Twitter.Twat.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

This tbh.Why even put crap like that on Twitter.Twat.

what do you want him to put on Twitter

"alrite m8s im fecking battrd an getttin a curry. laterz"

?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by lostalex

if it goes on 1 second longer than wanted than it's just as bad as any other kind of rape. and dawkins argument doesn't even make sense. i would argue that date rape is actually worse than being raped by a stranger because it's being perpetrated by someone you trust.

just out of curiosity "the truth" how long are you willing to be raped for before YOU call it rape? how long can i **** your ass against your will before YOU consider it rape? i can **** you for 5 seconds according to you and i'm not a rapist? well get over here then. i could use those 5 seconds.

if i permitted you to penetrate my ass and you did so and after say 20 minutes of ass shagging i scream no , if you went on 1 second after i said no, should you then be sent to prison for 20 years like a rapist whos killed

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

if i permitted you to penetrate my ass and you did so and after say 20 minutes of ass shagging i scream no , if you went on 1 second after i said no, should you then be sent to prison for 20 years like a rapist whos killed

I don't think this homo erotic scenario was part of the profs comparison was it?

[GypsyGoth]

Yea the truth, just ask Alex for a date, the worst that can happen is that he'll say no.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

if i permitted you to penetrate my ass and you did so and after say 20 minutes of ass shagging i scream no , if you went on 1 second after i said no, should you then be sent to prison for 20 years like a rapist whos killed

I love this forum. Barmy people.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Dawkins should be applauded for bringing many people to atheism around the world. if more governments made this a priority there would be less problems from ignorant superstition.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Dawkins should be applauded for bringing many people to atheism around the world. if more governments made this a priority there would be less problems from ignorant superstition.

athesists are even more ignorant on average

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I love this forum. Barmy people.

yep you sure are

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what do you want him to put on Twitter

"alrite m8s im fecking battrd an getttin a curry. laterz"

?

He just makes himself look like an attention seeking twat putting stuff like that on there.

[Kizzy]

I suppose that's science for you everything has a logical order and is measurable, he's taking the human element out of it... which if it was an experiment and he was following a formula would unfortunately be flawed.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Harsh. Do they not get a couple of seconds to pull out?

date rape is not just someone not pulling out as fast as they can. it's actually offensive for you to try to characterize it that way.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by lostalex

date rape is not just someone not pulling out as fast as they can. it's actually offensive for you to try to characterize it that way.

youre feigning offence as usual

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

date rape is not just someone not pulling out as fast as they can. it's actually offensive for you to try to characterize it that way.

That's not what I said.

Tell me I'm offensive when you learn to read.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by lostalex

date rape is not just someone not pulling out as fast as they can. it's actually offensive for you to try to characterize it that way.

you also ducked my question in rather cowardly fashion

[AnnieK]

Date rape is just as violating as stranger rape and often more difficult for the victim to prove as it comes down to one parties word against the other. Obviously violent rape is horrific and it's often difficult to find the person who did it but if they did leave any evidence...DNA etc it's easier to prove in court than a date rape where the parties are known to each other due to the issue of consent. I went through a court case with a member of my family who's life was effectively ruined by the court case....she has serious trust issues now, emotional issues and will actively advise people not to report it to the police as it is so difficult to prove.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Date rape is just as violating as stranger rape and often more difficult for the victim to prove as it comes down to one parties word against the other. Obviously violent rape is horrific and it's often difficult to find the person who did it but if they did leave any evidence...DNA etc it's easier to prove in court than a date rape where the parties are known to each other due to the issue of consent. I went through a court case with a member of my family who's life was effectively ruined by the court case....she has serious trust issues now, emotional issues and will actively advise people not to report it to the police as it is so difficult to prove.

every single situation is completely different and there are different levels of criminality to each and even rape....to say all are the same as alex says is utter nonsense

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by the truth

every single situation is completely different and there are different levels of criminality to each and even rape....to say all are the same as alex says is utter nonsense

I didn't say it's the same, I said it's just as bad. It's like arguing who has it worse, blacks or gays.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I didn't say it's the same, I said it's just as bad. It's like arguing who has it worse, blacks or gays.

so have anal sex consensually if your partmer says stop and you dont instantly stop and take 3 seconds to stop, that rape is just as bad as mugging someone on the street, hitting them over the head and dragging them into the woods to be gand raped and left for dead? according to your logic these 2 incidents are just as bad as each other and exactly the same? ???????????? really???