FAQ |
Members List |
Calendar |
Search |
Today's Posts |
|
Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics. |
Reply |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
07-08-2014, 06:06 PM | #1 | |||
|
||||
Some might say
|
"A theatre has refused to host the UK Jewish Film Festival while it is sponsored by the Israeli Embassy amid the ongoing crisis in Gaza. The Tricycle Theatre in London, which has hosted the festival for the past eight years, had been due to screen at least 26 films as part of the event in November. But Indhu Rubasingham, artistic director of the Tricycle, said the festival should not accept funding from ''any party to the current conflict'' between Israel and Palestinians. " (The festival got £1400 from the Embassy as part of their cultural budget. The Theatre gets £750, 000 from the Arts Council. ) The festival was backed by actress Maureen Lipman, who said: ''The Tricycle have decided to punish Jewish people in the diaspora for one view of what is taking place in the Middle East and that is quite unacceptable.'' http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-Festival.html Is this just anti-Semitic or are they taking a moral stand. Would they have done this over say Syria, Iraq or Nigeria? |
|||
Reply With Quote |
07-08-2014, 07:12 PM | #2 | ||
|
|||
-
|
moral stand it seems
|
||
Reply With Quote |
07-08-2014, 07:14 PM | #3 | |||
|
||||
שטח זה להשכרה
|
I'd like to know whether they'd have gone ahead with it if a private Jewish donor had offered the £1400 the Israeli Embassy was putting in. I hope the Arts Council takes this decision into account when they're next looking at funding.
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
07-08-2014, 08:11 PM | #4 | ||
|
|||
User banned
|
brilliant decision, if this disgrace continues, ban israel from all sporting events too......ps lipman biased as always and wholly unsympathetic...
|
||
Reply With Quote |
07-08-2014, 08:50 PM | #5 | |||
|
||||
שטח זה להשכרה
|
This wasn't an Israeli event. There was £1400 worth of funding from the Israeli Embassy and because of that, they cancelled. They should have asked the Embassy to withdraw and continue with the festival. I'm sure plenty of Jewish people would have supported it financially. Being Jewish doesn't automatically make you a supporter of Israel's stance on Gaza.
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
07-08-2014, 10:12 PM | #6 | |||
|
||||
All hail the Moyesiah
|
^ The director of Tricycle Theatre did ask the Jewish Film Festival to return a grant from the Israeli embassy if it wished to continue there and even offered to make up the difference. That offer was refused.
Last edited by MTVN; 07-08-2014 at 10:12 PM. |
|||
Reply With Quote |
07-08-2014, 10:55 PM | #7 | |||
|
||||
שטח זה להשכרה
|
Oh well... I guess that sets a precedent for every arts organisation to be able to fully scrutinise and police every backer of every festival to make sure any money put in comes from a source they're completely happy with.
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
07-08-2014, 11:03 PM | #8 | |||
|
||||
All hail the Moyesiah
|
But the Tricycle Theatre does actually tend to do that, according to this article they've always been very consistent in not allowing any events which are tinged by political partisanship:
Quote:
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
07-08-2014, 11:14 PM | #9 | |||
|
||||
שטח זה להשכרה
|
Quote:
From the same article: We’ve considered the Tricycle’s decision as a matter of intent. But we also have to consider its effects. And this is where the defences prove inadequate. The Tricycle may say, and mean, that it would turn down funding from Hamas, but it seems highly unlikely that the question of a Hamas-funded film festival in the UK will arise in the weeks ahead; and, for all that it rejects money from the Labour party, it certainly accepts it from the Arts Council, a stance that was not reversed during the war in Iraq. It may say, and mean, that it would have happily provided alternative funding, but it must have known that to ask the UKJFF to forego funding from the Israeli embassy placed it in an impossible position. It may say, and mean, that its actions are aimed squarely at the prosecutors of a hideous war, and no one else. But it isn’t Benjamin Netanyahu who will be missing out on the latest works by Eytan Fox or Josh Aronson on a rainy Tuesday night in north London. |
|||
Reply With Quote |
07-08-2014, 11:20 PM | #10 | |||
|
||||
All hail the Moyesiah
|
Yeah I know I read it, hence why I posted "The writer does actually go on to criticise the cancellation and makes a fair argument"
And still I say that "even if the decision was a misjudged one I can understand the intention and don't think accusations of anti-semitism are at all fair" |
|||
Reply With Quote |
07-08-2014, 11:27 PM | #11 | |||
|
||||
שטח זה להשכרה
|
Quote:
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
07-08-2014, 11:32 PM | #12 | |||
|
||||
filthy mudblood
|
Holy crap that is truly frightening.
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
08-08-2014, 01:42 AM | #13 | ||
|
|||
User banned
|
|
||
Reply With Quote |
08-08-2014, 06:58 AM | #14 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
Quote:
I would think so then it would be more hidden |
|||
Reply With Quote |
08-08-2014, 09:54 AM | #15 | ||
|
|||
Remembering Kerry
|
I think the Theatre is wrong and I also think the truly vile things being said at present relating to the Jewish people should have those making them called to account.
What is happening in Israel and Gaza, is a complicated issue,there are probably great faults on both sides which sadly, even the USA and the UK seem unable to find the right compromising answer to as well. Israel is surrounded by Nations that detest its very existence there,it is horrific what is happening there of course but comments like the ones highlighted above as to Hitler are the most disgusting and disgraceful ones around at present Really this Theatre hasn't helped the situation either in my view by its actions on this too. Last edited by joeysteele; 08-08-2014 at 09:54 AM. |
||
Reply With Quote |
08-08-2014, 10:28 AM | #16 | |||
|
||||
Likes cars that go boom
|
Fair play to them for sticking to their principles, it offered an alternative solution and this was rejected.
The arts are for everyone and should remain as impartial as possible to maintain a respect for all cultures. There will always be ignorant people that say reactionary things, that'll never change.
__________________
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
08-08-2014, 01:31 PM | #17 | |||
|
||||
Some might say
|
Quote:
It seems the Tricycle has decided to punish all jews around the globe by its actions.. |
|||
Reply With Quote |
08-08-2014, 03:42 PM | #18 | |||
|
||||
Likes cars that go boom
|
It's not 'punishing' anyone, it's taking an ethical stance against the war as have many Israelis and Jewish alike.
__________________
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
08-08-2014, 03:47 PM | #19 | |||
|
||||
שטח זה להשכרה
|
Although they were quite happy to accept Government money through the Arts Council while we were at war with Iraq. It looks like they pick and choose which ethical stance they're willing to take dependant on how much cash is involved.
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
08-08-2014, 04:10 PM | #20 | |||
|
||||
Likes cars that go boom
|
Not really comparable livia sorry.
__________________
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
08-08-2014, 04:18 PM | #21 | ||
|
|||
User banned
|
Quote:
blowing up 1400 innocent people is 1400 more important that a few choice words |
||
Reply With Quote |
08-08-2014, 05:05 PM | #22 | |||
|
||||
filthy mudblood
|
Quote:
If you can't see that then I worry for you. What's next, you and some like minded friends have a get together and burn dvds of the movies that were gonna be shown at this theater. Every rocket that Hamas fires is attempted murder on innocent lives. |
|||
Reply With Quote |
08-08-2014, 06:32 PM | #23 | |||
|
||||
שטח זה להשכרה
|
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
08-08-2014, 06:41 PM | #24 | |||
|
||||
Likes cars that go boom
|
Quote:
Not that I think you're trying to divert the topic.
__________________
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
08-08-2014, 06:58 PM | #25 | |||
|
||||
שטח זה להשכרה
|
Quote:
We're never going to agree on this, or anything. Might as well leave it there. |
|||
Reply With Quote |
Reply |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
Display Modes | |
|
|