[Liam-]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Patricia, I don't buy into this whole PC correct thing, that's probably why I keep getting banned, but this Kellie thing is doing my head in. To a degree I can understand a fit young lad changing into high heels and looking feminine, but Frank is an ugly and annoying little ugly sh.t to start with and his transition is doomed to fail unless he meets a man with a big white stick and a huge fluffy dog with a saddle on.

I cant get my head past the fact that he has either not thought about it all that strongly or he is just plain conning the public for monetary gain. Either way or, he needs help. I am sure in the fullness of time my thoughts will be vindicated but by then everyone will be so bored of it, the next case will be on the table.

I am happy with who I am and am comfortable with my views but I get so annoyed when some kid who hasn't even gone through puberty yet, uses a keyboard to slate 60 odd years of experience because he can type google and I don't care to even bother, then tells me I am a dinosaur.

BTW that last paragraph wasn't pointed at anyone in particular.

Obviously was though

[lostalex]

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[Liam-]

Originally Posted by lostalex

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[Fendertele]

What's the fuss?...there's good and bad in all walks of life...it doesn't matter what or who you are, you are you, and your an independent person with your own thoughts etc, Just because someone's sky-blue-pink it doesn't mean they are x,y,z,...We are all different, but so much the same....

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Fendertele

What's the fuss?...there's good and bad in all walks of life...it doesn't matter what or who you are, you are you, and your an independent person with your own thoughts etc, Just because someone's sky-blue-pink it doesn't mean they are x,y,z,...We are all different, but so much the same....

Once I can work out this conundrum, I will get back to you but in my day we always used to say, a leopard never changes his spots. I prefer the straight forward approach and this lateral thinking guff is all designed to explain the unexplainable. Frank was a bad barsteward, and Kellie is that same barsteward in a dress and mottly wig.

[Fendertele]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Once I can work out this conundrum, I will get back to you but in my day we always used to say, a leopard never changes his spots. I prefer the straight forward approach and this lateral thinking guff is all designed to explain the unexplainable. Frank was a bad barsteward, and Kellie is that same barsteward in a dress and mottly wig.

What I'm trying to say is the basic human instinct is survival, we each survive in our own different ways,some are nice, some are not, and so on, but it amounts to the same goal...to get through another day....

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Can't we just all treat people and judge people as individuals? wouldn't that solve all of these problems?

YES! But then what would the PC people tick us off about?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Leslie apologised for the words he used towards Frenchy and was upset by it.

In both cases I think it's saying things in the heat/emotion of the moment.

However in Kellie's case it does seem to go far beyond that and she's struggling to stay "in character".

Just a pantomime Dame and not a very convincing one either

[jaxie]

I don't have any prejudices against anyone and believe that people should do what makes then happy. Having said that I don't really understand transgender. Obviously the people who desire it have a need but since you can't give someone womb and internal plumbing I am not sure I understand how removing certain parts and giving hormones can make them another sex. Is it really making someone more complete than they could be just to live and dress as they want to be? Wouldn't it be better to try to help the deep emotional issues involved instead? I feel sorry for Kelly as she is obviously very troubled but she doesn't come across to me as a woman. she acts like a man when she gets threatening.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by Nell_McCoy

I agree that Leslie is not Transphobic I would also give him the benefit of the doubt in how he justified his nomination of Kellie as being genuine. However he did make quite disgusting remarks about Frenchie's female genetalia which sounded quite women-hating to me, he referred to her being French in an insulting way and called her a "slut" Why should the words "stinking slut" be acceptable? It is women not men who have been labelled with such vile sexual words and oppressed historically, the fact that Gay men may tend towards using the word towards other (usually) Gay men is of no consequence, it is still misogynistic. He was of course right that she has wilfully prostituted her body,but he had no right to use the hate-filled language he did, he was not warned for his language and Kellie was, that is unfair and a typical case of BB regarding every other type of discrimination and oppression as being worse than the oldest and most extreme - that of men over women.

you summed up what I wanted to say perfectly.

And I don't believe Leslie would have used slut to describe a male. I guess we might never know so it's difficult to argue about it.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

It's got to be a humdinger for PC crowd. Decisions, decisions, which LGBT pack do you follow: camp misogynist guy Leslie or new nemesis trans "Kellie" who reiterated her homophobia in her outburst against misogynist Leslie (I previously pointed out Kellie as Frank 10 years ago as Ukip London mayor candidate stated several homophobic comments to which trans fan girls notedthat trans and gays love each other under a big pink LGBT umbella....WRONG). Looks like 'our Kellie' is still homophobic. Wondrr if the fan girls will blame hormones, even though Kellie had a while to digest the Scrap Heap decision.

So PC folk, are you #team transgender with Kellie or #team gay with Leslie?

and sexist frenchy who destroys mens property or anti americans who wake gary up every night, but when frenchy keeps them up they go berserk?
the lie in the UK is that only hetrosexual men, usually older men, are bigotted. when in fact bigotry or ignorance or misunderstanding etc is across the board and of course when so called minorities are bigotted, especially women who are allowed to be as bigotted against men as they like, this is ignored. what an idiotic country we are