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View Poll Results: Do you want Scotland to be independent? | ||||||
Yes | 21 | 41.18% | ||||
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No | 30 | 58.82% | ||||
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07-08-2014, 03:07 AM | #551 | ||
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08-08-2014, 06:27 PM | #552 | |||
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We don't need a vote? You're probably the same person that wouldn't want the EU to have any input on referendum and leave it all down to us.
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24-08-2014, 04:39 PM | #553 | |||
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24-08-2014, 11:34 PM | #554 | |||
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I'm getting more and more excited..
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24-08-2014, 11:35 PM | #555 | |||
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Are you in or out Lee? or would you prefer not to say?
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24-08-2014, 11:38 PM | #556 | |||
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I'm a huge huge YES.
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24-08-2014, 11:41 PM | #557 | |||
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I'm not too sure... Having been born in Scotland, I'd hate to see a huge drift between the two countries. Plus I personally don't see it going well if they do become independent
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24-08-2014, 11:42 PM | #558 | |||
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The 'proud to be scots, delighted to be united' posters made me smile a lot when I visited my grandad and Greg last week
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24-08-2014, 11:49 PM | #559 | |||
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Will there be border control if the vote is yes? need a passport to get in and out?
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24-08-2014, 11:51 PM | #560 | |||
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No there wouldn't be
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24-08-2014, 11:54 PM | #561 | |||
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I don't think there'd be a huge drift.. We'd still be neighbours and best friends, but we'd have our own government and the rest if the uk would have theirs.. It makes sense to me
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24-08-2014, 11:55 PM | #562 | |||
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Hmm true... I just feel it's a little risky. I don't know all that much about it though
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25-08-2014, 12:02 AM | #563 | |||
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I'm 100% sure Scotland can go it alone.. And I'm feeling pretty sure we're going to go for it I want home from hospital for the 18th so I can sit up all night and eat and drink and watch the results coming in. I think I'll probably die from excitement though :/
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25-08-2014, 10:51 AM | #564 | ||
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It's mostly a shame because no voters are (in huge numbers) doing it to preserve the status quo and because it feels "safer". It is NOT safe. The UK is economically ****ed. So I look at it this way: An independent Scotland could go either way. In 30 years time with a Yes vote, things in Scotland might be amazing... might be thriving. Or it might go badly and a lot of people will be screwed. In 30 years time with a No vote, there's no question about it; in the UK, unless you're landed gentry, you will be in the gutter. The government is doing a good job of controlling the media and convincing the general public that the economy vs the cost of living isn't spiraling completely out of control but... it simply is. The UK will be a bankrupt country full of poor, miserable people. Eastern European countries will be looking back on how things are now and pissing themselves laughing that they ever wanted to live / work in the UK. The effect will be WORSE for Scotland because, as always, things get gradually ****tier the further you go from London, because the corrupt and useless Westminster governments treat it like a self-contained and all important City State, and any money that IS left will be siphoned south. So... yeah... this is what will happen if we vote "no". In the event of a "Yes" vote I personally think there will be a few tough years but once firm footing is found we would be in a much better position to survive the inevitable end of Western economic supremacy. Scotland has a small populaion and a lot to offer no matter which superpower reigns supreme. The UK as a whole is a post-imperial nightmare that is FAR too big for its' boots. And this is what delusioned, media-affected Scottish voters feel is "safe". |
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25-08-2014, 11:11 AM | #565 | |||
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Seeing how the gulf between haves and have-nots across Britain is widening society does seem to be going in a counterclockwise direction, the answer is not returning to the slums and being controlled by water cannon.
It's time we realised English parliament is corrupt, maybe Scotland should go for it? One question... Lee can I come live in your shed?
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25-08-2014, 11:20 AM | #566 | |||
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25-08-2014, 11:24 AM | #567 | |||
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25-08-2014, 11:25 AM | #568 | |||
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Surely the threat of putting up border control will be the ace card for the no vote, far more Scots come into England than the other way around.
I thought this would be one of Cameron's tactical moves. |
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25-08-2014, 11:30 AM | #569 | |||
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No border problems just Total Freedom for Scotland. Last edited by arista; 25-08-2014 at 11:31 AM. |
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25-08-2014, 07:33 PM | #570 | |||
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On BBC2HD or SkyNewsHD
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25-08-2014, 07:49 PM | #571 | |||
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Alistair Darling
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25-08-2014, 09:16 PM | #572 | ||
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For me Alex Salmond got this one.
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25-08-2014, 09:24 PM | #573 | |||
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25-08-2014, 09:48 PM | #574 | |||
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All hail the Moyesiah
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Crap debate, neither said anything new and just repeated the same rubbish we've been hearing for months
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25-08-2014, 10:30 PM | #575 | ||
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I'm on the fence......thank heavens I don't have to vote!
There hasn't been enough discussion on the important issues for me to make a decision. I'm hoping for a good outcome all round and praying I don't need a visa to visit family. |
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