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arista · 15-10-2014, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

ffs all this internet troll stuff is way out of control, who'd have thought there were was so many "brave" people sitting behind their computer screens

yes but no one is going to Rape their Daughter

It appears this is just to get their failed daughter in the Press

Niamh. · 15-10-2014, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

LOL... I HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY! But I won't.

oh dear

Livia · 15-10-2014, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

oh dear

Yeah, I know what you mods are like. I don't want to be locked in that cupboard again.

arista · 16-10-2014, 12:16 PM

Now BBC1 News just showed a clip of Judy
on ITV1HD Loose Women.

And spoke of the tweet rape threat
to her daughter

And they are on many front pages

Livia · 16-10-2014, 12:28 PM

So... people upset by Judy's comments about a rapist, as it's such a terrible and sensistive subject, feel perfectly justified in threatening rape against her daughter who said nothing at all about the case. And I didn't think I could hold Twitter in any more contempt than I already do.

People moan about attempts to police the Internet. It's people who abuse their right to comment who will end up being the reason for all of us being policed online.

Niamh. · 16-10-2014, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

So... people upset by Judy's comments about a rapist, as it's such a terrible and sensistive subject, feel perfectly justified in threatening rape against her daughter who said nothing at all about the case. And I didn't think I could hold Twitter in any more contempt than I already do.

People moan about attempts to police the Internet. It's people who abuse their right to comment who will end up being the reason for all of us being policed online.

I know right. People are idiots

lostalex · 16-10-2014, 12:54 PM

i think it's more about keeping things in perspective. if someone is sending you weird things in the post(mail), or leaving things at your door step it's very serious.... but we've all said things on the internet that we regret, made extreme comments on youtube. It's important to remember the difference between the internet and real life. When it carries into real life, real letters, or real stalking that's a totally different thing. We've all said something offensive online in the heat of the moment, but someone who is obsessing about an individual and terrorizing them is different. Some of these celebrities pretend to be terrorized just because someone left a nasty comment on their youtube video or on twitter, and they are abusing the system to get more sympathy.

I'm an asshole, but i've never terrorized anyone.

Amy Jade · 16-10-2014, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

i think it's more about keeping things in perspective. if someone is sending you weird things in the post(mail), or leaving things at your door step it's very serious.... but we've all said things on the internet that we regret, made extreme comments on youtube. It's important to remember the difference between the internet and real life.

I totally agree.

Threatening to rape Chloe is utterly repulsive though but do comments made in jest really warrant prosecution? I don't know.

Livia · 16-10-2014, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by StupidHoe

I totally agree.

Threatening to rape Chloe is utterly repulsive though but do comments made in jest really warrant prosecution? I don't know.

If the comment made in jest is threatening to rape an innocent women, then **** yeah it warrants prosecution. And these people are easier to trace than they would believe.

lostalex · 16-10-2014, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

If the comment made in jest is threatening to rape an innocent women, then **** yeah it warrants prosecution. And these people are easier to trace than they would believe.

it's not always serious though Livia, saying "i will rape you, and then you will be pregnant with my child, and then I will fist you until you have an abortion" is not a serious threat, it's just an internet comment. is it crass and disgusting? yes. now if the same person starts stalking that person, or obsesses about it that person, then sure, but treating every extreme comment as a threat is not right.

The internet is not real life. If it moves into real life, then of course the police should be involved, but most comments are just trolling and trolling should not be illegal. If trolling was illegal

I could make a case that the Entire Guardian Website is trolling! HOW MANY times did i hear comments on the Guardian that George W Bush should be water boarded, should we have treated all of those comments as "threats against the president"? everyone who has people disagreeing with them can claim that they are being
"trolled". where would you draw the line.

The police should only get involved when it becomes a REAL issue. someone who is near the person, and is directly threatened.

hyperbole is not a crime.

Amy Jade · 16-10-2014, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

If the comment made in jest is threatening to rape an innocent women, then **** yeah it warrants prosecution. And these people are easier to trace than they would believe.

Since we don't know what exactly even happened I won't even debate with you on that one

Livia · 16-10-2014, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by StupidHoe

Since we don't know what exactly even happened I won't even debate with you on that one

Oh right. As you'd already commented on a debate thread I thought you had something to say.

Livia · 16-10-2014, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex

it's not always serious though Livia, saying "i will rape you, and then you will be pregnant with my child, and then I will fist you until you have an abortion" is not a serious threat, it's just an internet comment. is it crass and disgusting? yes. now if the same person starts stalking that person, or obsesses about it that person, then sure, but treating every extreme comment as a threat is not right.

The internet is not real life. If it moves into real life, then of course the police should be involved, but most comments are just trolling and trolling should not be illegal. If trolling was illegal I could make a case that the Entire Guardian Website is trolling! everyone who has people disagreeing with them can claim that they are being
"trolled". where would you draw the line.

The police should only get involved when it becomes a REAL issue. someone who is near the person, and is directly threatened.

hyperbole is not a crime.

Whatever you say on the Internet is covered by exactly the same laws of libel and slander that cover what you would say in real life. There is no difference. The Internet is VERY real if you're on the receiving end of bullies, if someone nicks your identity and passes themself off as you, if someone threatens to rape you... Saying it doesn't count is you say it on the internet is like saying it doesn't count if you say it indoors. It's irrelevant.

lostalex · 16-10-2014, 01:11 PM

We should judge people on their actions, not on their words or beliefs.

Amy Jade · 16-10-2014, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Oh right. As you'd already commented on a debate thread I thought you had something to say.

Because I can see both sides. On one hand it's horrible to threaten rape on anyone but I haven't seen the comments or their context I don't see the point in debating it.

See, if one of the 'threats' was stated in a certain way like 'If I raped your daughter lets see if you'd want me back in the public eye and forever have to suffer seeing my face' etc I'd support that comment.

But as stated, the supposed threatening comments have not been published so what's the point in debating.

lostalex · 16-10-2014, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Whatever you say on the Internet is covered by exactly the same laws of libel and slander that cover what you would say in real life. There is no difference. The Internet is VERY real if you're on the receiving end of bullies, if someone nicks your identity and passes themself off as you, if someone threatens to rape you... Saying it doesn't count is you say it on the internet is like saying it doesn't count if you say it indoors. It's irrelevant.

well stealing someone else's identity is a crime, that's true. and making a legitimate threat is also a crime. but making a ridiculous internet comment, like "I want to stuff your pussy with so many poprocks that it makes your vagina explode", is not a serious threat, obviously that person is not going to put poprocks in your pussy. it's obviously hyperbole.

How many threats are legitimate and how many are just hyperbole? I'd say 99.9% are hyperbole. if someone was really gonna hurt someone, they wouldn't advertise it on the internet before they did it.

arista · 16-10-2014, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

So... people upset by Judy's comments about a rapist, as it's such a terrible and sensistive subject, feel perfectly justified in threatening rape against her daughter who said nothing at all about the case. And I didn't think I could hold Twitter in any more contempt than I already do.

People moan about attempts to police the Internet. It's people who abuse their right to comment who will end up being the reason for all of us being policed online.

Yes Richard
keeps stating he has screen photos of the Trolls
and will get the Police on to them.

I feel a Docu' being made now

Ithinkiloveyoutoo · 19-10-2014, 02:05 AM

'The tougher sentencing laws have already been dubbed 'Chloe's Law' in light of Miss Madeley's protest against trolls.'

Tough on people talking smack on the internet, forgiving to ACTUAL rapists. How do you know the rape would have been violent Judy?

Can't stand her. Her husband I can just about bear.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...use-cases.html

arista · 19-10-2014, 04:04 AM

arista · 19-10-2014, 12:47 PM

Feck me

Katie Hopkins live on SkyNewsHD
she said she get a mess
saying a man will hold her down
while her children are killed.

Troll Debate will be on their site soon