[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by RodHull

I never suggested it was better or worse. I believe that was you in the piece I quoted who suggested she was somehow better than Helen... Which is entirely subjective anyway.

Point is to suggest Harry is some womens rights champion is utterly laughable. Her chosen career (for want of a better term) is about being exploited by men and unlike Helen she has expressed no desire to change that, indeed Harry revels in it, stating in the first few days her purpose in the show was to get her tits out a lot... the smiley bubbly fake she was when she went in there has slowly melted away to reveal a disturbed skank who will use any cheap trick and tactic to get by in there.

Like her by all means but lets not pretend shes some bully slayer. Marc is not a bully not even close hes way to much of a bellend for that and universally disliked, a bully would have everyone onside by now and certainly wouldnt have been put up for nominations by everyone including those he likes, and note he didnt react at all or get annoyed.

Lets see how well Harry the psycho takes it when shes up next week...

That is a good description of Helen though

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by RodHull

I never suggested it was better or worse. I believe that was you in the piece I quoted who suggested she was somehow better than Helen... Which is entirely subjective anyway.

Point is to suggest Harry is some womens rights champion is utterly laughable. Her chosen career (for want of a better term) is about being exploited by men and unlike Helen she has expressed no desire to change that, indeed Harry revels in it, stating in the first few days her purpose in the show was to get her tits out a lot... the smiley bubbly fake she was when she went in there has slowly melted away to reveal a disturbed skank who will use any cheap trick and tactic to get by in there.

Like her by all means but lets not pretend shes some bully slayer. Marc is not a bully not even close hes way to much of a bellend for that and universally disliked, a bully would have everyone onside by now and certainly wouldnt have been put up for nominations by everyone including those he likes, and note he didnt react at all or get annoyed.

Lets see how well Harry the psycho takes it when shes up next week...

Erm, please quote where I said anything of the sort.

I never suggested or insinuated that either of the two are better, infact I said "they both work in the sex industry" which suggests that their careers are very similar.

Either you didn't actually read my posts and just decided to reply to me anyway or you're making things up

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by Dollface

Erm, please quote where I said anything of the sort.

I never suggested or insinuated that either of the two are better, infact I said "they both work in the sex industry" which suggests that their careers are very similar.

Either you didn't actually read my posts and just decided to reply to me anyway or you're making things up

And I never suggested you directly did so... but many on these forums are (go check the threads) and your point certainly steers in the same direction suggesting shes the only one standing up to a bully which she isnt and he isnt for the record.

And yes Niamh it is a fair point to suggest Helen was a bully, I dont agree for reasons much discussed last year but still shes far closer to a bully than Marc is.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by RodHull

And I never suggested you directly did so... but many on these forums are (go check the threads) and your point certainly steers in the same direction suggesting shes the only one standing up to a bully which she isnt and he isnt for the record.

And yes Niamh it is a fair point to suggest Helen was a bully, I dont agree for reasons much discussed last year but still shes far closer to a bully than Marc is.

No, just because "many of these forums are" doesn't mean I am, it does seem as though you didn't actually read my posts. Once again, please show me a quote where I suggested that Harry is the only one standing up to a bully.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by RodHull

And I never suggested you directly did so... but many on these forums are (go check the threads) and your point certainly steers in the same direction suggesting shes the only one standing up to a bully which she isnt and he isnt for the record.

And yes Niamh it is a fair point to suggest Helen was a bully, I dont agree for reasons much discussed last year but still shes far closer to a bully than Marc is.

I just think Marc is a rude asshole but harry is also a dickhead.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Dollface

Erm, please quote where I said anything of the sort.

I never suggested or insinuated that either of the two are better, infact I said "they both work in the sex industry" which suggests that their careers are very similar.

Either you didn't actually read my posts and just decided to reply to me anyway or you're making things up

They may work in the sex industry but it's not likely that Harry has sex with her clients considering she's a dominatrix.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I just think Marc is a rude asshole but harry is also a dickhead.

This!

[Amy Jade]

Dollface in this thread

Kaz, you know I respect you very much but I am so confused how Helen being an ex prostitue makes Harry worse, I don't personally believe any housemates should be made out to be repulsive by their job but Helen was paid to let men have sex with her and perform sex acts upon men for cash, you seem to imply Harry is worse for simply going full frontal on TV - I honestly for the life of me can't understand that POV that Harry standing up in the bath nude is somehow worse than a woman being paid for sex.

Would you say an actress such as Kate Winslet or Charlize Therone are worse than a prostitute, too? since they've also been in the nude for various roles.

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I just think Marc is a rude asshole but harry is also a dickhead.

True.
I wonder what would happen if when they say Marc has been evicted, he does something really stupid coz he thinks he is going rather than to a secret room.
You never really know with Marc, he is so unpredictable.
He might head-butt Harry or something

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Dollface in this thread

Kaz, you know I respect you very much but I am so confused how Helen being an ex prostitue makes Harry worse, I don't personally believe any housemates should be made out to be repulsive by their job but Helen was paid to let men have sex with her and perform sex acts upon men for cash, you seem to imply Harry is worse for simply going full frontal on TV - I honestly for the life of me can't understand that POV that Harry standing up in the bath nude is somehow worse than a woman being paid for sex.

Would you say an actress such as Kate Winslet or Charlize Therone are worse than a prostitute, too? since they've also been in the nude for various roles.

Hi Amy,I will explain it the best I can,I really disliked Helen when she went in the house last year and one of the reasons was that she had slept with a footballer and could have ruined his marriage,but as time went on I began to like Helen and her job as a prostitute was really nothing to do with me and didn't affect me,so I judged her on how she was in the house,and I fully expected her to be a slapper but she wasn't as I recall.I am not really bothered what line of work Harry is in either,but I dont find her likable at all,it's not just the nudity (although,that is way overdone)it's her whole persona,she seems really weird imo,it doesn't help that she has a foul mouth,I was nearly sick last night when she said someone had a mouthful of Sams fanny !! I mean ,really? her face during the task was like a slapped arse,and although I know Marc can be over bearing and a plonka sometimes,I don't think she can blame everything on him,Marc is a first class knob sometimes,but he does seem to want to have fun,Harry and Marc are not all that different,I just find Marc more likeable,I think he has a kind heart,I have not seen that yet with Harry,she has a cold,hard face,I don't know how else to explain it,Katie Hopkins was called a bully last year and we didn't think she was,we all see things differently,this year it is just different for us,lets hope CBB is better.

[wendywillow]

am I the only on who doesn't give a flying ******* what a girl does to make a living? all this skank and ***** talk....tons of actresses have gotten their tits out for a role, everyone from Julie Andrews to Helen Mirren. They're all getting paid, who cares

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Hi Amy,I will explain it the best I can,I really disliked Helen when she went in the house last year and one of the reasons was that she had slept with a footballer and could have ruined his marriage,but as time went on I began to like Helen and her job as a prostitute was really nothing to do with me and didn't affect me,so I judged her on how she was in the house,and I fully expected her to be a slapper but she wasn't as I recall.I am not really bothered what line of work Harry is in either,but I dont find her likable at all,it's not just the nudity (although,that is way overdone)it's her whole persona,she seems really weird imo,it doesn't help that she has a foul mouth,I was nearly sick last night when she said someone had a mouthful of Sams fanny !! I mean ,really? her face during the task was like a slapped arse,and although I know Marc can be over bearing and a plonka sometimes,I don't think she can blame everything on him,Marc is a first class knob sometimes,but he does seem to want to have fun,Harry and Marc are not all that different,I just find Marc more likeable,I think he has a kind heart,I have not seen that yet with Harry,she has a cold,hard face,I don't know how else to explain it,Katie Hopkins was called a bully last year and we didn't think she was,we all see things differently,this year it is just different for us,lets hope CBB is better.

Harry doesn't come across as being a particularly likeable type, I agree with you there. What i find "interesting" though is that last week, Harry played a very good game, she befriended the oldies, seemed to be doing really well. Then, nominations happened, the 3 other newbies all got put up. From that moment, Marc started his assault on Harry, and slowly but surely, by aggressive persuasion, he has made the oldies tow the line. Harry is a much more isolated figure than Simon ever was, its a very horrible position to be in, and its not in her nature to give in and stop fighting (which I admire). I find the whole thing a bit contrived, unnatural and uncomfortable, but i would love to see Harry take down Marc, unfortunately its not going to happen with the fake eviction looming.