[arista]

[Sick: Depraved jihadis fighting
for the Islamic State have forced
a young child to savagely behead
a Syrian regime army officer
in the first execution of its kind]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3g9URqEAJ


Typical of them.

[Ninastar]

Just when you think tjeu can't get any worse

[Toy Soldier]

This has been my point all along really. These people are not monsters, or at least, they weren't born monsters. They aren't just evil beings who want to hurt / kill / cause damage. They are taken when they are young kids like this and they are systematically broken, completely psychologically ruined, in order to create monsters.

This is why bombing and using drones and shock and awe will never work. All it will ever do is create more displaced children with dead families to be taken in and easily converted.

[rubymoo]

What is the answer to dealing with ISIS?

Makes me sad knowing the amount of damage ISIS is doing and it feels wrong that we're powerless to do anything to help these people.

I watched a programme about women escaping ISIS capture.........heartbreaking

[Tom4784]

Probably one of the most horrible stories I've read. They've taken an innocent child, broken him and molded him into a monster. Unforgivable.

It's so sad to think that, if his circumstances were different he would have probably grown up happy and well adjusted but now there's no hope for him.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Probably one of the most horrible stories I've read. They've taken an innocent child, broken him and molded him into a monster. Unforgivable.

It's so sad to think that, if his circumstances were different he would have probably grown up happy and well adjusted but now there's no hope for him.

I wouldn't say there's no hope; but I agree mostly.

I know this might be controversial but I think we should just... leave them to it. This is not going to go away. No army can stop an idea. These people have been pushed to the brink and are fighting back against what they see as decades of Western oppression in a region that's already full of ethnic and religious tensions, it's not like a case of Axis vs Allies - this is a big unholy mess. This is more or less what Catholics and Protestants went through centuries ago in Europe.

[Dollface]

That is one disturbing photo, the look in his eyes..

[Kazanne]

Flaming disgusting,do people think this is real or propaganda?just asking as,there is a lack of blood and ,I cannot get over the fact this kid actually did that, his face is full of hate,it's a horrible horrible photo

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

This has been my point all along really. These people are not monsters, or at least, they weren't born monsters. They aren't just evil beings who want to hurt / kill / cause damage. They are taken when they are young kids like this and they are systematically broken, completely psychologically ruined, in order to create monsters.

This is why bombing and using drones and shock and awe will never work. All it will ever do is create more displaced children with dead families to be taken in and easily converted.

Originally Posted by Z

I wouldn't say there's no hope; but I agree mostly.

I know this might be controversial but I think we should just... leave them to it. This is not going to go away. No army can stop an idea. These people have been pushed to the brink and are fighting back against what they see as decades of Western oppression in a region that's already full of ethnic and religious tensions, it's not like a case of Axis vs Allies - this is a big unholy mess. This is more or less what Catholics and Protestants went through centuries ago in Europe.

I wholeheartedly agree. While ever we continue to poke into other people's affairs and think that we own the world and know what's best for it, the longer this will continue. Is it really of any surprise that things like this happen after everything we've done to them?

[empire]

as soon as assad wipes these paid foreign backed scumbags, the better, look at the mess we have done to libya and iraq, thank god that russia and iran have helped keep those barbarians at bay, with supplying the syrian government with everything, intruth saddam and gaddafi knew how too keep a leash on trouble makers like isis, and kept their countries stable,

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Flaming disgusting,do people think this is real or propaganda?just asking as,there is a lack of blood and ,I cannot get over the fact this kid actually did that, his face is full of hate,it's a horrible horrible photo

i think its real as it was all captured on video. Its very disturbing to think what they are doing

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I wholeheartedly agree. While ever we continue to poke into other people's affairs and think that we own the world and know what's best for it, the longer this will continue. Is it really of any surprise that things like this happen after everything we've done to them?

Do you think that we're responsible for this? If that's true, why are they killing more Muslims than anyone else? Your last sentence makes them sound like victims.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

This has been my point all along really. These people are not monsters, or at least, they weren't born monsters. They aren't just evil beings who want to hurt / kill / cause damage. They are taken when they are young kids like this and they are systematically broken, completely psychologically ruined, in order to create monsters.

This is why bombing and using drones and shock and awe will never work. All it will ever do is create more displaced children with dead families to be taken in and easily converted.

What's your solution then, TS? Leave them to it? Negotiate with them? What's the answer?

Lots of people have joined ISIL as adults incidentally, they're not all poor children taken away and brainwashed. A percentage of these - let's call them people as I don't want to get into the "name calling" conversation again - are educated and know exactly what they're doing.

[Mystic Mock]

His a head of his time.

Seriously though why are we allowing such a big threat to grow? The whole world should be trying to put a stop to them imo instead of complaining about not wanting to be in the EU, or moaning about immigration all of the time.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

His a head of his time.

Seriously though why are we allowing such a big threat to grow? The whole world should be trying to put a stop to them imo instead of complaining about not wanting to be in the EU, or moaning about immigration all of the time.

Absolutely, we cannot just let them get on with it, they will find their way here and they will do these sickening acts to innocents in the UK as well as as they have already started to in other Nations.

As you say, even here in the UK, we are going to waste millions at least on a referendum as to the EU,time consumed possibly creating more pointless divisions between the UK particularly and other European countries,when this is what we should be really fighting to sort out.
All working and coming together to get this scum off the face of the earth,once and for all.
Also sorry for this terminology but this makes me really mad,by any means possible and necessary to do so too.
Not wasting millions as to funds and endless time on daft things when we could and should be doing everything to get this lot literally exterminated.

[bitontheslide]

The real threat in this is not the actual horrendous brutality of the acts that are being carried out. What this is doing is changing the worlds perception toward the violence. If they keep doing this over an extended period people will become acclimatised to it, no matter how horrible it is. That's how humans cope with these things. The effect of this is far more wide reaching than some barbaric murderers in a far off land. It will affect our humanity.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Absolutely, we cannot just let them get on with it, they will find their way here and they will do these sickening acts to innocents in the UK as well as as they have already started to in other Nations.

As you say, even here in the UK, we are going to waste millions at least on a referendum as to the EU,time consumed possibly creating more pointless divisions between the UK particularly and other European countries,when this is what we should be really fighting to sort out.
All working and coming together to get this scum off the face of the earth,once and for all.
Also sorry for this terminology but this makes me really mad,by any means possible and necessary to do so too.
Not wasting millions as to funds and endless time on daft things when we could and should be doing everything to get this lot literally exterminated.

Well exactly Joey.

In particular with the UK instead of doing this stupid referendum that will force most people to vote yes in the end anyway, we could actually keep that money that will be wasted on a referendum to fund the Military instead of cutting it all of the time, and we could hopefully get a lot of European countries and the USA to help and join us too.