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05-09-2015, 09:50 AM | #26 | |||
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I heard this morning we give more aid to Syria than all other EU countries put together.
But I would have thought refugees would be mainly women and children and not all young men the same age? Like when a boat sinks |
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05-09-2015, 09:52 AM | #27 | ||
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Who did they give it to in Syria? surely the people that need it are the ones running for their lives and i dont think money is what they are seeking just now.
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05-09-2015, 11:03 AM | #28 | |||
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I feel sorry for them.
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05-09-2015, 11:13 AM | #29 | ||
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These people are 'not' in the main economic or personal migrants, they are refugees fleeing harm and likely death in the troubled and war torn Nations. Throwing money at the problem is not helping clearly that much, odd on this issue,this govt says throwing money is a good thing but to save things like the NHS they should not be throwing money at that. We have the poorest PM in Europe in my view, a man who says much and does near nothing, he has to be dragged kicking and screaming or shamed into doing the right and/or decent thing. Slowly he is being made to on this issue, never before from all I have seen or read,have I come to the conclusion that the UK has had such bad and weak leadership in the World from its Prime Minister and govt and we have now. Thankfully some Conservative MPs have had enough too of his procrastination and saying more needs to be done. Again JoshBB, I agree with your whole post,that is exactly what we should be doing. |
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05-09-2015, 11:39 AM | #30 | ||
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We have a responsibility to help as much as we can, we've destabilised the Middle East and allowed the rise of IS. We have inadvertently played a role in causing the immigration crisis.
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05-09-2015, 11:41 AM | #31 | |||
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The money is given as humanitarian aid. It isn't given to anyone in Syria. I'm sure the people who administer this are not stupid. |
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05-09-2015, 12:11 PM | #32 | |||
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I feel I have quite a middle ground view on this issue.
On the one hand I say, these people NEED to get out of their country and to safety, they are all living awful lives, and we can change that. Imagine we closed our doors to Jewish people during WW2, it would've been one of the worst things Britain has done in history, could we do that now On the other hand, if immigrants keep flowing in how to we keep track of who's in our country, as said before, we've not seen many families traveling across, the majority of the people are young men. The UK also has quite a high unemployment rate at the minute, and if immigrants need jobs to fund for themselves that number will rise. The UK is quite a small country, what about Scandinavia, large countries and a lot of wealth. I'm not a big fan of David Cameron but I feel he can't win here, don't let Immigrants in he'll get a lot of sht for being heartless, let them in he'll get a lot of sht for the high unemployment rate and dropping economy. I just dunno
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05-09-2015, 12:19 PM | #33 | ||
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How the news is presented is moulded and shaped to the audience's sensibilities. You won't get many positive stories about Muslims despite the fact there are plenty of good ones out there because Islam=terrorists. You're not going to get many sympathetic stories about struggling families because poor people=scroungers. It goes on and on. Thankfully (although due to tragic reasons) the way the immigrant crisis is being reported is changing to the more realistic and sympathetic light it should have been reported in. |
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05-09-2015, 12:20 PM | #34 | |||
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05-09-2015, 12:23 PM | #35 | |||
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05-09-2015, 12:28 PM | #36 | |||
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05-09-2015, 12:30 PM | #37 | |||
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05-09-2015, 01:16 PM | #38 | |||
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Who's saying "it's your responsibility not mine"? Obviously from the contributions we've made and the agreement to take refugees from UN camps we have recognised our responsibility. The Royal Navy has at least three ships in the Med and has rescued thousands of people. But we are a tiny country and cannot take everyone. The whole world needs to work together on this instead of squabbling while people die.
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05-09-2015, 03:47 PM | #39 | |||
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I think it would do most people good to read up on their history and just how treacherously the British Government treated the Jews. |
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05-09-2015, 03:59 PM | #40 | |||
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In the past few weeks I have watched Alan Titmarsh renovate the garden of a Muslim mother who is a veritable saint due to the charity work she carries out and she was well-loved by her entire community (and by me) and watched a beautiful and charming young Muslim woman take part in the Great British Bake-Off, and she was enchanting. And this is on top of several other documentary programs which gave platforms to 'moderate' Muslims. I do not recognise any bias towards Muslims in our Media, but no one is stupid enough to think that ALL Muslims are terrorists even if there was. |
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05-09-2015, 04:18 PM | #41 | |||
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The problem is no one seems capable of setting up a system that will process refugees and weed out those taking advantage of those who are fleeing war and persecution. The media lump them all under the word migrant which gives the impression that they left their homes and lives for better ones elsewhere in Europe. I think whilst we should be doing more for refugees we need to be careful we are not letting people who mean to do us harm in at the same time.
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05-09-2015, 04:18 PM | #42 | |||
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Our PM is taking Syrian Familys direct from the UN Base outside of Syria. They are LEGAL. The others use Criminal Evil Murdering /Profit First Smugglers So Our PM is doing the right thing. We need to Get out of Europe as they are going to sink under these Millions of Illegal people Last edited by arista; 05-09-2015 at 04:19 PM. |
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05-09-2015, 04:21 PM | #43 | |||
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as they can not return to Syria. So he will take Legal Familys from the Jordan UN Base near Syria. Our PM has sorted Our Side Germany can Get Fecked |
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05-09-2015, 04:23 PM | #44 | |||
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05-09-2015, 04:23 PM | #45 | |||
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05-09-2015, 04:23 PM | #46 | ||
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As for your point about muslims, for every positive representation you offer I can find hundreds more examples of demonisation. Alan Titchmarsh and the GBBO doesn't offset that. There's a lot of bias in the media against muslims, poor people, refugees etc. Just look at the tabloids. |
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05-09-2015, 04:24 PM | #47 | |||
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05-09-2015, 04:58 PM | #48 | |||
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"It doesn't matter what they look like, they're refugees from a bullet ridden hell that we've played a large part in creating."
Bang On Right Dezzy Thats why Our PM is taking Refugees direct from UN Bases near the outside of Syria a nation they can not return to. Not from the Murdering /Evil /Profit First Smugglers who use dodgy dingys Last edited by arista; 05-09-2015 at 05:00 PM. |
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05-09-2015, 05:12 PM | #49 | |||
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Tells you a lot about a nation when the bulk of the "poor refugees" are fit young men
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05-09-2015, 05:29 PM | #50 | |||
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