[Daniel.]

I hate being gay because most gay guys tend to be ugly

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by arista

Theres loads of happy songs singing Life is So Gay
from 40 years back.

"Gay" has been Hijacked

It's because homosexuals were thought to be happier than heterosexuals so everyone called them gay as in happy and then the word just stuck

...now it's used as an insult

[Jordan.]

Everyone is born gay, anything else is a choice (joy)

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

less of that bannable tone Marsh

[TomC]

I think some people are misunderstanding what the OP means. They are not suggesting that you 'choose' it. They are saying that your psychology can change as you develop.

It's an interesting debate, and no one really can say for definite why and how some people are gay.

Personally, I believe being gay can develop as you grow due to external circumstances. I think having the lack of a father figure can lead to homosexuality, as controversial an opinion that may be.

I am quite inclined to think that no one is born straight or gay, and it develops in your childhood as your hormones and sex organs start to develop etc. In fact it just occurred to me, you don't really feel attraction to people properly until early puberty, so how can someone be born with a sexuality?

I just don't know.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by hownwbrowncow

I think some people are misunderstanding what the OP means. They are not suggesting that you 'choose' it. They are saying that your psychology can change as you develop.

It's an interesting debate, and no one really can say for definite why and how some people are gay.

Personally, I believe being gay can develop as you grow due to external circumstances. I think having the lack of a father figure can lead to homosexuality, as controversial an opinion that may be.

I am quite inclined to think that no one is born straight or gay, and it develops in your childhood as your hormones and sex organs start to develop etc. In fact it just occurred to me, you don't really feel attraction to people properly until early puberty, so how can someone be born with a sexuality?

I just don't know.

Thank you!!

I agree with your points, too!

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by hownwbrowncow

I think some people are misunderstanding what the OP means. They are not suggesting that you 'choose' it. They are saying that your psychology can change as you develop.

It's an interesting debate, and no one really can say for definite why and how some people are gay.

Personally, I believe being gay can develop as you grow due to external circumstances. I think having the lack of a father figure can lead to homosexuality, as controversial an opinion that may be.

I am quite inclined to think that no one is born straight or gay, and it develops in your childhood as your hormones and sex organs start to develop etc. In fact it just occurred to me, you don't really feel attraction to people properly until early puberty, so how can someone be born with a sexuality?

I just don't know.

I agree. It takes a good few years for you to start feeling any sort of sexual attraction.

[Liam-]

I've had a prominent father figure all my life and I'm still a bumder

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Thank you!!

I agree with your points, too!

Glad I interpreted you correctly!

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I've had a prominent father figure all my life and I still turned into a bumder

I never said having no strong father figure will always make you gay and having one will always make you straight. I just meant there may be a correlation.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I've had a prominent father figure all my life and I'm still a bumder

"Can"

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

I hate being gay because most gay guys tend to be ugly

huge swathes of tibb shade?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

I hate being gay because most gay guys tend to be ugly

Jay looks much better these days.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Nobody chooses their sexuality. You're born gay, straight or somewhere in between and nothing can impact or change that.

People coming out later in life will not have chosen to be bi/gay, they would have just repressed that side of themselves.

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[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Of all the people you could have used to blame for the 'born gay' concept.. you went with tony blair?

I'm shocked. I was certain he would have gone with a woman?

[Ashley.]

gays should die lol its okay i'm allowed to say that because I'm gay too lol x

no this is not justified.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

gays should die lol its okay i'm allowed to say that because I'm gay too lol x

What

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

What

It was an exaggeration to mirror how silly people sound when they say "I'm allowed to say it because it's what I am"

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

It was an exaggeration to mirror how silly people sound when they say "I'm allowed to say it because it's what I am"

Do you not understand the concept of reclaiming words used as slurs, and turning them into a message of empowerment? If not, there, I just explained it to you.

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Do you not understand the concept of reclaiming words used as slurs, and turning them into a message of empowerment? If not, there, I just explained it to you.

Well no because it's not like that isn't it, it's just an excuse to offend.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

It was an exaggeration to mirror how silly people sound when they say "I'm allowed to say it because it's what I am"

Yes, because me using derogatory words to describe myself is completely comparable - even when exaggerated - to a gay saying all gays should die.

Gay people are allowed to say those words if they want to, just like black people are allowed to use the N word if they want to, I don't use the words to describe other people, just myself, normally when I'm being sarcastic or trying to pove a point, social immunity is great that way.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Well no because it's not like that isn't it, it's just an excuse to offend.

um?? yes it is though?

Can I just ask, are you LGBT+ yourself or straight?

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

It was an exaggeration to mirror how silly people sound when they say "I'm allowed to say it because it's what I am"

I agree. If the word is heard being banded around, it loses it's potency, it becomes acceptable, and everyone says it, and that's wrong IMO.

[Northern Monkey]

Filthy hetero scum should all die a slow death.Specially me!
It's ok though cos i'm straight.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by hownwbrowncow

I agree. If the word is heard being banded around, it loses it's potency, it becomes acceptable, and everyone says it, and that's wrong IMO.

That's the whole point.

Then the word can't be used in an abusive, hateful, or offensive manner.. the words then lose their power. Reclaiming words is an important aspect of empowering any group that faces prejudice.