[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

this lot are screw tops

Does Buckfast has a screw top? I don't know...

[MTVN]

Couldn't get a more fitting typo from Big Eric lol

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I heard one lady describe the labour party as " The party for the sit down and do nothing " party,now that shouldn't be the way they are seen but I can see where she was coming from tbh.

Funny as the Labour party is for workers

Here's the opinion of the new statesman...

'90 per cent of new housing benefit claims are from people in work – that low wages and high living costs are forcing people to turn up to a job, work all day, and then get "top ups" from the state to afford luxuries like rent and heat. And, as such, that being “the party of people on benefits” would currently largely mean “being the party of people in work who are struggling to make ends meet”

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics...lfare-are-scum

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Livia

Is that right they lost all their luggage? When the cork fell out?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Funny as the Labour party is for workers

Here's the opinion of the new statesman...

'90 per cent of new housing benefit claims are from people in work – that low wages and high living costs are forcing people to turn up to a job, work all day, and then get "top ups" from the state to afford luxuries like rent and heat. And, as such, that being “the party of people on benefits” would currently largely mean “being the party of people in work who are struggling to make ends meet”

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics...lfare-are-scum

I think what she meant Kizzy that Labour were far too lenient in who they paid benefits to,no real means testing which made it a way of life for some and still is,but they are getting shaken up a bit now.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Rudd and Javid are good choices, I cannot stand Priti Patel however.

Yes they are.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes they are.

Javid will be a really good business secretary,I think that is Cameron's best appointment.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Funny as the Labour party is for workers

Here's the opinion of the new statesman...

'90 per cent of new housing benefit claims are from people in work – that low wages and high living costs are forcing people to turn up to a job, work all day, and then get "top ups" from the state to afford luxuries like rent and heat. And, as such, that being “the party of people on benefits” would currently largely mean “being the party of people in work who are struggling to make ends meet”

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics...lfare-are-scum

Exactly,good article Kizzy.
Blows the usual tripe in the media out of the water.

[MTVN]

Greg Clark as Minister for local government seems like a good appointment, sounds like a through and through localist

[arista]

The SNP leader
went for a easy interview on LWHD today

[bitontheslide]

Former Foreign Secretary David Miliband has criticised his brother Ed's leadership of the Labour Party.
He told the BBC Labour had lost the general election because voters "did not want what was being offered".
The leadership had allowed itself to be portrayed as "moving backwards", he said.
But Mr Miliband, who was beaten to the job of leader by his younger sibling in 2010, also said the two of them would "remain brothers for life".
He also ruled himself out of becoming the party's next leader, which would not be possible as he is not an MP.
Leadership election
Mr Miliband quit parliament in 2013 to work for the International Rescue Committee charity in New York.
Speaking to the BBC's Nick Bryant in New York, he said: "I'm clearly not a candidate in this leadership election… the commitment I have to the job I've got doesn't change."
Ed Miliband resigned as Labour leader in the aftermath of the general election, which left his party on 232 seats, with the Conservatives securing an overall majority.
The Miliband brothers at the Labour Party conference in 2010
David Miliband (R) left UK politics after losing the Labour leadership battle to his brother
His approach was criticised at the weekend by former Business Secretary Lord Mandelson, while some of the MPs tipped to replace him have spoken of the need to appeal to "aspirational" voters.
David Miliband said there was "absolutely no point in blaming the electorate" for the election result.
"They didn't want what was being offered," he added.
'Rewind button'
He said his brother and former Labour Prime Minister Gordon Brown had "allowed themselves to be portrayed as moving backwards from the principles of aspiration and inclusion that are the absolute heart of any successful progressive political project".
He added: "Either we build on what Labour achieved after 1997 and we have a chance to succeed, or we abandon it and we fail."
But he said he remained in touch with his younger brother, adding that "many of the attacks on Ed were unpleasant and unfair and I think he dealt with them with enormous dignity and with courage… I've always said you remain brothers for life and that's something that has to be kept".
Asked whether Labour would be better off if he had been chosen as leader, Mr Miliband said there was "no point in trying to press the rewind button in life".
BBC political correspondent Iain Watson said Mr Miliband's remarks about aspiration suggested he thought the leadership was "obsessed with taking money from those at the top" but that it "didn't have enough to say about those in the middle".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32697212

[joeysteele]

I,for one, am not going to denounce David Miliband for what he has said, he has waited a long time for his 'moment'.

He was proven right in truth,I recall on an episode of Question Time,when asked who he felt was the better,him or Ed to lead the Labour party.

He responded with,'if he thought Ed would make a better leader of the Labour party than him,then he would be running Ed's campaign'.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I,for one, am not going to denounce David Miliband for what he has said, he has waited a long time for his 'moment'.

He was proven right in truth,I recall on an episode of Question Time,when asked who he felt was the better,him or Ed to lead the Labour party.

He responded with,'if he thought Ed would make a better leader of the Labour party than him,then he would be running Ed's campaign'.

I will second that Joey.
It has never been a secret that they would have led the party in different ways.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by arista

The SNP leader
went for a easy interview on LWHD today

She charmed them

[MTVN]

At least Miliband appears to be enjoying his post-election break in Ibiza

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I think that fan will be shoved up someones ass before the night is out

It was

But not mine

[arista]

Youtube video

[Kizzy]

[empire]

the only reason that labour, and the tory's, stay in the two top spots, because of one thing, strong hold voting, like the north votes labour, and the south votes, conservative, but people are fed up with the main parties, and want too vote, another party outside the main three, ukip, snp, green party, plaid cymru, got alot more votes, than was predicted, in the next 15 years, labour and tory. hold on the top, will be weakened, if you tell me what happend to the lib dems, was a one off, and the other two parties won't get the same fate, think again,

[Kizzy]

Alistair Carmichael deliberately misled a Cabinet Office inquiry over the leak of a memo on Nicola Sturgeon’s view of May’s general election to save his political career, an election court in Edinburgh has been told.

Jonathan Mitchell QC told the hearing that the former Scottish secretary failed until 12 May to tell an investigation that he authorised the so-called Frenchgate memo to be leaked, five days after he narrowly saved his seat of Orkney and Shetland.

Carmichael admitted to the court that he did not tell the inquiry set up by the Cabinet secretary, Sir Jeremy Heywood, that he authorised the leak by his aide Euan Roddin when he was sent a short questionnaire in mid-April. It was an “act of untruthfulness”, Carmichael said.

This big fat LIE cost Labour the election.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...geon-memo-leak

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Funny as the Labour party is for workers

Here's the opinion of the new statesman...

'90 per cent of new housing benefit claims are from people in work – that low wages and high living costs are forcing people to turn up to a job, work all day, and then get "top ups" from the state to afford luxuries like rent and heat. And, as such, that being “the party of people on benefits” would currently largely mean “being the party of people in work who are struggling to make ends meet”

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics...lfare-are-scum

Some believe all the tripe they read in the media Kizzy and if they are so inclined they will only look for the bad in a party as if there is no good.
Truth falls by the wayside.

I see good in the Conservative party sadly it is stifled by the thoroughly nasty element that make up the cabinet and who decides the vile heartless policies, the decent Conservatives just have to toe the line or get ugly threats form the whips.

So we end up with the nasty part of the party governing while the decent just sit back, moan at times but do little to change it.
David Cameron once claimed to have got rid of the old nasty Conservative party.
he was right and he replaced it with an even nastier and heartless one, even Margaret Thatcher never attacked the sick, disabled and vulnerable like this sad excuse for a Prime Minister has allowed to be the case.
Some don't see the suffering of the vulnerable so believe the media and this lying govt, that it isn't the case.
Some, friends and even in my own family who I am stunned can be so dismissive of same who are unknowing what really is and who even deny what seems too.

[Kizzy]

As you said earlier they won't act until it affects them personally, as is the case now with tax credits, those who considered themselves the untouchables.. Couples with more than 2 kids wondering how they are going to adjust to the drop in the monthly budget.
Again across the thread the accusation is that the youth of today is less tolerant and heartless... Maybe that's true, it's a bitter pill to swallow if it is, but it would make sense as the overarching message to generation Z is 'I'm alright Jack'.

[Jøsh]

Bump.Please read OP.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Alistair Carmichael deliberately misled a Cabinet Office inquiry over the leak of a memo on Nicola Sturgeon’s view of May’s general election to save his political career, an election court in Edinburgh has been told.

Jonathan Mitchell QC told the hearing that the former Scottish secretary failed until 12 May to tell an investigation that he authorised the so-called Frenchgate memo to be leaked, five days after he narrowly saved his seat of Orkney and Shetland.

Carmichael admitted to the court that he did not tell the inquiry set up by the Cabinet secretary, Sir Jeremy Heywood, that he authorised the leak by his aide Euan Roddin when he was sent a short questionnaire in mid-April. It was an “act of untruthfulness”, Carmichael said.

This big fat LIE cost Labour the election.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...geon-memo-leak

It really didn't

[gamepodfan]

one word about politics

c**p