[Kizzy]

What has Eubank done ... How productive is he?
Didn't dare incur his wrath did he the spineless so and so

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

All this hate yet if lady c and jorgia had to pick In the hardworking task and if they put all the men as LEAST HARD WORKING and all the women as MOST HARDWORKING I bet there wouldn't be all this fuss or hate towards the "leaders" double standards

Based on the edit, there wouldn't be a kick off, because this would at least have been close to the truth.

[Denver]

Truthfully George and Tony should have been bottom as we have seen them do pretty much nothing for the camp.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

Tony's the type of man who thinks women should stay at home cleaning the house and cooking for him, and when he comes home after a hard day's drinking, that there should be a piping hot meal waiting for him.

Cooked by his adoring wife, who should have already prepared the bed for an evening of sex.

You have no evidence of that at all,infact the people I have seen talking about him on TV all say he's a really nice guy,so I'll go with the people that know him,until he proves otherwise.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Truthfully George and Tony should have been bottom as we have seen them do pretty much nothing for the camp.

It wasn't George fault. He was removed from the team for no reason. And he hasn't had a trial/challenge yet.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What has Eubank done ... How productive is he?
Didn't dare incur his wrath did he the spineless so and so

Good point Kizzy,you'de think this was all Tonys doing,Chris was there an could have said he didn't agree

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

You have no evidence of that at all,infact the people I have seen talking about him on TV all say he's a really nice guy,so I'll go with the people that know him,until he proves otherwise.

Fair enough, but so far his treatment of women isn't good.

He seems selfish to me. And particularly targeted two women because they were women with his 'men are better than women' attitude.

MY opinion.

[Jose Mourinho]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

Fair enough, but so far his treatment of women isn't good.

He seems selfish to me. And particularly targeted two women because they were women with his 'men are better than women' attitude.

MY opinion.

But when it was time to choose teams the first person he chose, with the hope of forming the better team was INFACT a female, Jorgie. He clearly does not think men are better than women.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho

But when it was time to choose teams the first person he chose, with the hope of forming the better team was INFACT a female, Jorgie. He clearly does not think men are better than women.

Same reason she is the only campmate with a bikini watch thread... He said himself... Bit of eye candy

[Jose Mourinho]

Originally Posted by Mokka

Same reason she is the only campmate with a bikini watch thread... He said himself... Bit of eye candy

Nothing wrong with that?!?

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho

But when it was time to choose teams the first person he chose, with the hope of forming the better team was INFACT a female, Jorgie. He clearly does not think men are better than women.

He chose Jorgie because she was attractive and 30 years younger than him.

He thought maybe something to ogle.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho

Nothing wrong with that?!?

In your opinion, but don't use it as your argument of his high esteem for women as his equals

[Calderyon]

Didn´t like how Tony picked/ranked the people or his reasons/motives, but Lady Colin´s reaction was way over-the-top even if it was somewhat understandable. Some of it was clearly just to get airtime though.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Truthfully George and Tony should have been bottom as we have seen them do pretty much nothing for the camp.

You cannot judge that based on the edits we get. Tony based in on BEING THERE

I would take his judgement over any viewer - especially one who thinks that some posh judgemental bitch is the new Ghandi

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

He chose Jorgie because she was attractive and 30 years younger than him.

He thought maybe something to ogle.

evidence?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You cannot judge that based on the edits we get. Tony based in on BEING THERE

I would take his judgement over any viewer - especially one who thinks that some posh judgemental bitch is the new Ghandi

She right though He is happy for her to cook his food and Yvette do his washing and then treats them like that? The cook should always be near the top of hard working

[Calderyon]

The main culprits here are the viewing public who chose Tony and Chris as leader and vice leader with 30 % and 29 % of the vote.

[Jose Mourinho]

Originally Posted by Mokka

In your opinion, but don't use it as your argument of his high esteem for women as his equals

never said he had a high esteem of women, but i have certainly not seen anything to suggest he has a low opinion of women. Thx.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

The main culprits here are the viewing public who chose Tony and Chris as leader and vice leader with 30 % and 29 % of the vote.

I wonder what reaction the campmates and public would give if it was a man and a woman who were leaders for example Duncan & Susanne

[GiRTh]

I dont think Tony had any malice in his decision but it did cause conflict and thats what we want

[Jose Mourinho]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I dont think Tony had any malice in his decision but it did cause conflict and thats what we want

exactly and the actual task was " rank them in order of least hardworking" not " who is the laziest" love how some people like to manipulate words to create an opportunity to vent some anger/ frustration. Lady C is just starting to throw her toys out of the pram and its hilarious that some people ACTUALLY buy into her pathetic behaviour.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho

exactly and the actual task was " rank them in order of least hardworking" not " who is the laziest" love how some people like to manipulate words to create an opportunity to vent some anger/ frustration. Lady C is just starting to throw her toys out of the pram and its hilarious that some people ACTUALLY buy into her pathetic behaviour.

The producers of the show knew it would cause conflict and controversy with both the celebrities and the public which is why they did it
because they can't stand to see everyone get on

Talk about bad timing aswell straight after the eating trial that won all the food for them , i personally don't think Tony was being nasty in any way and i think he just picked everyone all at once without thinking about it more and he knew the women would be annoyed at him

But so far even though it's too early to say but Duncan sleeps alot but i think he's a grafter when he get's going , Jorgia did well in the trial but what does she do in camp ?? and some of the other celebs haven't been seen doing much yet and Lady C is the oldest one there so clearly Tony was thinking more along the lines of physical work , can you imagine her for example changing and cleaning the toilets i very much doubt it !!!!

But so far Yvette, Brian & Kieran seem to be pulling their weight in camp the most but it's still early