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Old 25-11-2015, 05:28 PM #26
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If you willingly make a sex tape then you should accept the possibility that the other party may show it to others or leak it. If you don't want it simply don't film yourself having sex which is what most non porn people did before the advent of home film. Hate whiners who whinge " ooo, poor me, I filmed myself having sex with someone, yes having sex on camera and am so shocked that person I slept with showed the film to other people, as films are not meant to watched."
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The attorney in the lawsuit, Keith Davidson, just contacted Radar and provided the following statement. “The alleged video that you purportedly reviewed has nothing to do with the above referenced lawsuit which was filed and subsequently dismissed more than five years ago,” he said, adding, “Though there was video evidence involved in the aforementioned case, that video evidence did not come close to portraying what you have described. Furthermore there was but one copy of that case related video evidence. That sole copy of the video evidence was irretrievably destroyed.”
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Nobody should have to pay anything to keep videos private.. disgusting that someone leaked them. A big jail sentence, I think.


I'm surprised by the complete lack of sympathy... I wonder how these people would feel if they impulsively made a sex tape and then it got leaked for the whole world to see.
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Have no sympathy for people who knowingly take part in home sex tapes then cry Wolf that others have seen the film. What do people expect others to do with a film? Eat it?!

People who are unknowingly filmed for sure are victims. If you know and consent to being filmed, please quit moaning, it's not the same. I think the law should be that if you knowingly take part in sex tape then you run the risk of leaks and footage falling into wrong hands. It's like letting go of a favorite balloon with jewellery attached into the air and then crying that someone nasty like Robert Mugabe or Vladimir Putin has it.

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Have no sympathy for people who knowingly take part in home sex tapes then cry Wolf that others have seen the film. What do people expect others to do with a film? Eat it?!

People who are unknowingly filmed for sure are victims. If you know and consent to being filmed, please quit moaning, it's not the same. I think the law should be that if you knowingly take part in sex tape then you run the risk of leaks and footage falling into wrong hands. It's like letting go of a favorite balloon with jewellery attached into the air and then crying that someone nasty like Robert Mugabe or Vladimir Putin has it.
The point is that he wouldn't have expected anyone else to do anything with the video, because it isn't their property. It's against the law to steal someones property, regardless of whether it's a video or anything else. It might have been foolish of him to think it would stay private, but that doesn't change the law, or the fact that if it was stolen, then he is the victim of a crime.
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The point is that he wouldn't have expected anyone else to do anything with the video, because it isn't their property. It's against the law to steal someones property, regardless of whether it's a video or anything else. It might have been foolish of him to think it would stay private, but that doesn't change the law, or the fact that if it was stolen, then he is the victim of a crime.
Whos property is it? Is it Charlie Sheens property or the person who made the vids property?
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Jamie89, laws can change and are not globally universal. If the law meant that being on tape and proven to consent meant consent for the footage to be shown it would be better and lead to people maybe having a tad more self respect and responsibility for their own sexual actions.
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Whos property is it? Is it Charlie Sheens property or the person who made the vids property?
Hmm, I'm not sure, I assumed it was his property because he was granted permission for it not to be leaked wasn't he? I can't imagine he'd be afforded that if he had no rights over it? If that's not the case then fair enough with the Charlie Sheen case (although morally I'm still totally against it) but really I was just speaking generally in response to Alex_Fronts post which was talking about how if people make a video, then they can't complain if someone else gets their hands on it.
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Hmm, I'm not sure, I assumed it was his property because he was granted permission for it not to be leaked wasn't he? I can't imagine he'd be afforded that if he had no rights over it? If that's not the case then fair enough with the Charlie Sheen case (although morally I'm still totally against it) but really I was just speaking generally in response to Alex_Fronts post which was talking about how if people make a video, then they can't complain if someone else gets their hands on it.
As he appeared in the video and didn't shoot it and due to the court cases I'd assume, I might be wrong, that Sheen fdoesnt own the vid. Once we get to the bottom of who owns the vid then they are the person with the rights to distribute it.
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Jamie89, laws can change and are not globally universal. If the law meant that being on tape and proven to consent meant consent for the footage to be shown it would be better and lead to people maybe having a tad more self respect and responsibility for their own sexual actions.
I see where you're coming from, I'm just really uncomfortable with the whole thing. I just think it's a shame that something stupid someone did years ago can be held against them like this, I'm not saying he shouldn't have known better, he should have, but I still feel sorry for him.
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As he appeared in the video and didn't shoot it and due to the court cases I'd assume, I might be wrong, that Sheen fdoesnt own the vid. Once we get to the bottom of who owns the vid then they are the person with the rights to distribute it.
If it was up to me then anyone who appears in a video would have a say in whether or not it's ok to be distributed. I don't know why they don't just make the law simple and implement that. Cases like this are only going to increase over time surely.
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He took part in it he deals with the consequences and I find it pretty disgraceful your saying a sex tape is the same as murder/terrorist attacks
Are you deliberately misinterpreting me or are you extremely idiotic?
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This has made me think about something I saw when I was like 14... a girl a few years above me had been videoed by her boyfriend while they were having sex and somehow it got out and spread round the school... at the time it was very salacious and we all thought it was hilarious and fascinating and it was scandalous etc... and now, looking back, I feel really bad about it because that poor girl must have wanted to die going to school every day... but at least she got to leave school and move on with her life and probably nobody ever thinks about it now and the video probably died with Nokia or whatever, this was pre Facebook and the like... this will never go away for Charlie Sheen if it ever surfaces. He's become this total pariah recently, it's horrible. I hope things get better for him soon.
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