[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by _Tom_

They could have done without a skinhead pointing aggressively at an elderly Asian lady, though. There are other ways to get the message across than offend with horrible stereotypes, incite hatred and create division.

Maybe he's angry because the old lady just pushed his kid off the see saw and just sat there looking smugly at him

[LeatherTrumpet]

also its not even real as he weighs more so she would shoot out the top and land on the ground and dislocate her hips

[_Tom_]

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by _Tom_

I mean they didn't have to use a child as a 'comparison'...

[_Tom_]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

I mean they didn't have to use a child as a 'comparison'...

I was thinking that, since a child can't vote... but you get the principle

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

I mean they didn't have to use a child as a 'comparison'...

It doesn't even make sense; children can't vote... no matter what colour they are

[_Tom_]

Why couldn't the poster just have two well dressed gentlemen or women? Why the disparity in body language and appearance?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by _Tom_

Why couldn't the poster just have two well dressed gentlemen or women? Why the disparity in body language and appearance?

Because hardcore Brexit skinheads are likely to be the first lined up at the voting booths when it comes to the EU referrendum, whereas older females of ethnic minorities are amoungst the least likely to vote at all - even though the vote greatly affects them. These women are being encouraged to make sure they vote, in order to "counter-balance" what is certain to be a 100% turnout for British nationalist extremists all voting "out".

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Because hardcore Brexit skinheads are likely to be the first lined up at the voting booths when it comes to the EU referrendum, whereas older females of ethnic minorities are amoungst the least likely to vote at all - even though the vote greatly affects them. These women are being encouraged to make sure they vote, in order to "counter-balance" what is certain to be a 100% turnout for British nationalist extremists all voting "out".

And there was me thinking it was a thoughtless, lazy bit of stereotyping.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Livia

And there was me thinking it was a thoughtless, lazy bit of stereotyping.

Of course it is, but most stereotypes contain some truth... that's how they start.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Of course it is, but most stereotypes contain some truth... that's how they start.

I didn't realise it was acceptable if it was a white man being stereotyped. I didn't think anyone ought to be stereotyped.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Livia

I didn't realise it was acceptable if it was a white man being stereotyped. I didn't think anyone ought to be stereotyped.

Whether or not the poster ought to have been made doesn't have any bearing on the question I was answering, which was: "Why couldn't the poster just have two well dressed gentlemen or women?"

I was only pointing out that having that as a poster wouldn't have been "saying the same thing" as this poster.

I happen to think it's pretty ham-fisted and I'm not a huge form of political propaganda in any form. There are much better ways to engage communities and ensure a good, diverse voter turnout than this.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Maybe he's angry because the old lady just pushed his kid off the see saw and just sat there looking smugly at him

[LeatherTrumpet]

And why is the Indian women dressed in a Sari that is designed for India and the climate they experience there - surely she should try and assimilate into UK culture and dress codes?

and has she learned English?

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

And why is the Indian women dressed in a Sari that is designed for India and the climate they experience there - surely she should try and assimilate into UK culture and dress codes?

and has she learned English?

Never mind that. Have you seen the atrocious job they've done with the grass?

[MTVN]

Don't think the poster would really work the same with a white granny seeing as she has probably sent off her postal vote for Brexit already and had the Vote Leave sign outside her house for weeks

[LeatherTrumpet]

and side saddle on a see-saw?

not realistic.jan

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by _Tom_

Of course the bottom one wouldn't be racist. A black man shouting at a white child (or an adult if we substituted it)? I don't think so. The white person would be far more likely to vote than a black man would be so the implication that they must come out and vote to offset the other would quite frankly be more hilarious than racist.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Never mind that. Have you seen the atrocious job they've done with the grass?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Its definitely a powerful message. Ethnic minorities are more likely to favour staying in the EU but they're also less likely to vote so its a good reminder that you can lose out if you don't participate in the democratic process.

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well its basically just a twist on 'if you don't vote you can't complain' really, think its quite clever myself

...yeah it's definitely very powerful and a message to ethnic minorities that they could be the people who make the difference in the referendum by casting their votes...I really like it, I have to say....and both really are equally stereotypes...the Asian lady and the white British man...

[Shaun]

I interpreted it as "if you don't like that gobby asshole on Facebook/at work who's been mouthing off about how he's going to vote Leave, then don't be idle, and cancel his vote out by actually turning up."

[Kizzy]

Strikes me most aren't arsed it's a bloke shouting at a granny, the gripe is the depiction of the white male isn't it?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Strikes me most aren't arsed it's a bloke shouting at a granny, the gripe is the depiction of the white male isn't it?

If we're going to start taking issue with blokes shouting down grannies, I'll have to leave TiBB

... ....

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If we're going to start taking issue with blokes shouting down grannies, I'll have to leave TiBB

... ....

Bitch

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I interpreted it as "if you don't like that gobby asshole on Facebook/at work who's been mouthing off about how he's going to vote Leave, then don't be idle, and cancel his vote out by actually turning up."

The fact that everybody is interpreting it in different ways is problematic in itself, really. Sure, it may as well not be racist as some have argued, but the fact that people think it is shows that they need to be a little bit clearer on their message.

A poster expressing a certain message should not cause confusion, or else there really isn't much point in the message in the first place.