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25-06-2016, 01:32 AM | #251 | |||
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This isn't some BB eviction. The whole thing is real and will affect a lot of people, its not about being "sore losers" it's about being deeply worried about where the UK is headed economically and politically. This fear and worry naturally generates anger. Remember the gap between leave and remain was just over 1m. Like, think how close that actually is. It's almost a split down the middle of the country.
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25-06-2016, 01:33 AM | #252 | |||
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25-06-2016, 01:38 AM | #253 | |||
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25-06-2016, 01:38 AM | #254 | ||
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25-06-2016, 01:38 AM | #255 | ||
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25-06-2016, 01:42 AM | #256 | ||
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Please, Leave has all the racist thugs, EDL, and the Britain First inbreds. If you think people being annoyed at Leave winning is 'nasty' then be thankful Leave didn't lose because blood would have been spilled.
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25-06-2016, 01:43 AM | #257 | |||
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Bye I have trips to Prague, Zante and Brussels on the cards for next year.
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25-06-2016, 01:44 AM | #258 | |||
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I've Zante marked too NOT here for having to go to Bulgaria instead!
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25-06-2016, 01:46 AM | #259 | |||
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Well to be fair the language I'm seeing in this thread makes me think that perhaps some people don't know the difference. Feelings don't just disappear because the ever so slightly majority voted against those us. Leave keep talking about how they want to make Britain great again, well that will include closing the gulf that this referendum has created.
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25-06-2016, 01:53 AM | #260 | |||
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The £ will be devalued by quite an amount, it might not be an extreme amount, but its more pressure on the most desperate.
We're currently in between Prime Ministers, with no idea of when article 50 will be invoked. Scotland WILL demand another Scottish Independence referendum, and I have a feeling they might be wanting to vote leave themselves. The leave vote has very likely cause a bit of a stir in Northern Ireland too, which we're going to have to keep a close eye on. And lastly, I know Leave voters seemingly hate the EU, but this could be the beginning of the end for the EU, but the EU crashing is in no way a good thing at all, it would cause even more chaos and panic than the Brexit itself, especially in countries like Greece. It would also have ramifications for the UK itself.
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25-06-2016, 02:12 AM | #261 | |||
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Extremely disappointed - that 'Leave' did not win by an even greater majority.
The UK has finally broken out of the prison which the abhorrent Edward Heath conned us into 42 long years ago - and we did it without the help of Michael Scofield
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25-06-2016, 02:48 AM | #262 | |||
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I see so much **** on fbook of people saying things like "we're leaving get over it and stop moaning"... Like are you being ****ing serious? This is a massive and scary change that will effect us all for the rest of out lives. We were already seeing some of the concequeces before it was even mid day... How can anyone be anything but a bit passionate about what's happened rn? Especially when it's not even been 24hrs since it was made official? Instead of moaning and winging about the remain lot ruining your victory pint with the reality of what's just happened, try give your take on what's going on. Like people have said in here before we've not just voted out Jayne from BB (as tragic as that would be) or the next Beyoncé from the Xfactor. This is not a case of "hahaha we win stop being so pressed you lefties" "lefties tears ohh" (a used and tiered joke btw). It's more than that imo and I feel like people acting like that have underestimated how important and above that this referendum should be. How are people who've lost meant to react just sit there quietly and accept the fact that in their eyes their country has let them down massively by ****ing up their future Based on a campaign of half truths, fear and intolerance? I respect that the majority have spoken and I respect everyone's right to vote but when I'm seeing leave voters being interviewed in disbelief over their vote actually counting and not being sure what they had actually done it does make me furious. One girl on my facebook actually wrote a status asking what it meant now that we'd left Europe, someone replies asking her why she voted to leave if she had no idea what was gonna happen and she responded with (I kid you not) something along the lines of "the Muslims were all gonna be let in from Syria and come here and be violent and I don't want to raise [son's name] in a violent environment" :/.... And yeah I know those two examples are not a representation of all the leave voters but seeing stuff like this kind of supports my theory that a few people who voted leave were not informed enough about the repercussions of making such a decision for Britain. I believe fear mongering, snappy key words intolerance and key words & slogans that made leaving feel as if it was the patriotic and right thing to do was what led a good amount of people to vote out and that's not good enough imo. I'm not actually sure what we're gonna do now this all seems so chaotic, everyone seems so shocked that we actually voted to leave and it seems like Scotland may want another referendum. So it's not looking like there's a way forward. All I can do is hope that I'm proven wrong and Britain recovers from this greater than ever. Last edited by armand.kay; 25-06-2016 at 02:50 AM. |
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25-06-2016, 02:51 AM | #263 | |||
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A trip to Bournemouth instead?
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25-06-2016, 05:54 AM | #264 | |||
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25-06-2016, 07:29 AM | #265 | |||
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25-06-2016, 07:34 AM | #266 | |||
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25-06-2016, 08:46 AM | #267 | |||
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25-06-2016, 09:08 AM | #268 | |||
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You said you didn't vote, so you opted for the status quo..you lost
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25-06-2016, 09:47 AM | #269 | |||
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I think we need to look at why the vote was out because although each who supported that decision believes it was because everyone had a common goal, it is far from reality.
Some voted because they wanted control of immigration, some to take back political control from Brussels, but I think the majority voted exit because they were just generally dissatisfied with their current circumstances and wanted to vote exit to register that feeling. In a standard general election, people basicallly have a choice of 2 parties. The majority are unhappy with both of them but consider one the lesser of the evils. so although dissatisfied, they pick one to support. The EU referendum gave all those voters the opportunity to say ... we dislike you all, so they voted for brexit. Even amongst the political groups that supported and campaigned for brexit, there is little evidence of any agreement between them, they just each cherry picked a reason to be dissatisfied and ran with it. In those circumstances its easy to find a voter who will agree. So, if general dissatisfaction was the real reason for voting brexit, we now have a circumstance where our main political parties are in dissarray, so in that respect, the aim has been achieved. The parties will now have to re-allign themselves to represent what people really think is important them, so believe it or not, its probably for the best and this is coming from someone who took the vote for what it was ... a vote about the EU and voted to remain. |
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25-06-2016, 12:52 PM | #270 | |||
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25-06-2016, 12:53 PM | #271 | |||
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25-06-2016, 12:54 PM | #272 | |||
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25-06-2016, 02:44 PM | #273 | ||
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At the moment. That will change once this initial tantrum is over. The value of the pound is always jumping up and down.
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25-06-2016, 02:53 PM | #274 | |||
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25-06-2016, 03:42 PM | #275 | |||
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These are people who have direct experience from before and after the European Union. They have lived through the EU's effect on their lives - and they can see how it's going. Last edited by _Tom_; 25-06-2016 at 03:43 PM. |
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