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Really pleased, the U.K. will be better off 27 36.00%
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Old 25-06-2016, 05:32 PM #301
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I think we were once called an 'irrelevant' country by the other Euro leaders.

If that's the case why is our exit causing them all to go into paroxysms of fear. They are like headless chickens.

The UK will always be great.

We are the best country in the world. Look at our music, our arts. Our scientists, specialists...adored the world over.

The Americans actually come here to film their movies. The back of the queue my ****.

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Our scientists and specialists have indeed been some of the best in the world historically because we have had an exemplary education system, which is now being decimated.

Our music, artists, novelists, talent... again all world class, because we have been allowed the individual freedoms and space for creativity to make that possible. That is now being systematically chipped away by austerity.

(And just FYI, Hollywood comes here, and to Canada, Australia, etc. to film movies because the big US locations like California and the iconic cities charge huge taxes to film there... they come because it's cheaper and has comparable architecture.)

Britain has been strong but it would be a HUGE mistake to become complacent. Especially now.
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Anyone who voted to leave the EU believing there'd be a dramatic decrease in immigration is an idiot quite frankly, since most migration to the UK comes from outside of the EU

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If EU members make it easy for the UK to set up beneficial trade agreements, if they allow the UK to prosper, they will be demonstrating that the UK's exit was a good idea and that may well trigger exits across the board and the complete dismantlement of the EU.

With that in mind;

Do you honestly believe that the bigger pro-EU governments will make it easy for the UK to set up any way decent trade deals?

Honestly?
Now we have Brexited - WE are in the BIG chair, and the EU is in the LITTLE chair, and they will jump through OUR hoops to continue trading with us - the deals may be thrashed out behind closed doors, as with so much of the corrupt twots dealings - but they WILL jump through our hoops.

The reasons why I say this are:

The EU’s share of global GDP fell from 30% in 1993 to 24% in 2013 and is STILL plummeting.

The UK has suffered a negative Trade Balance with The EU for decades, and it is increasing - in April of 2016, our trade deficit with the EU was Ł16 BILLION pounds - FOR THE MONTH.

We BOUGHT Ł16 BILLION POUNDS OF GOODS MORE FROM THE EU, THAN WE SOLD TO THEM - IN ONE MONTH.

With an ever increasingly plummeting share of Global GDP the crumbing EU is DESPERATE for trade, so the very notion that they will 'put barriers' in our way and deprive themselves of Ł20 BILLION POUNDS per month trade surplus is banal.

And for those who have been seduced by the propaganda and lies that the UK was economically stronger in the EU, bear in mind that we have been in the EU for over 40 years, then read this tiny snippet from Ed Conway, Economics Editor of Sky News:

"The worst goods trade deficit in more than three centuries"


"Last year Britain recorded its biggest deficit in goods trade since records began.*

Those records technically go all the way back to 1697, though getting hold of the data is rather tricky. The ONS only has numbers going back to 1998, on a comparable basis, while HM Revenue & Customs supposedly has the 300-year series of data, but, when I spoke to them earlier today, weren’t exactly sure where one can lay one’s hands on it."

THE WORST TRADE FIGURES FOR 300 YEARS! And note the difficulty in actually obtaining information from HMRC.

So much for any argument that we are 'economically better off in', and for any belief that the crumbling corrupt EU will salve their wounded pride by making it more difficult to trade with us - as I have said on here for a year - WE DO NOT NEED THE EU, THEY NEED US.

As you will witness.
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If it had made a difference I wouldn't of voted out. I've said all along that it wouldn't change a thing re- immigration.
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"As of 10.00am on Friday 24th June 2016, the UK has voted for Brexit. This will not affect the ability of UK residents to play EuroMillions; visit the EuroMillions Brexit page for more information.

Regardless of whether the UK remains in the EU or not, players will still be able to buy EuroMillions tickets, just like Great Britain will still enter EuroVision each year and European football competitions will stay the same. However, the economy is likely to be affected and shifting exchange rates will be analysed closely, and this could have a direct effect on the value of EuroMillions prizes won in the UK."


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Now we have Brexited - WE are in the BIG chair, ad the EU is in the LITTLE chair and they will jump through OUR hoops to continue trading with us - the deals may be thrashed out behind closed doors, as with so much of the corrupt twots dealings - but they WILL jump through our hoops.

The reasons why I say this are:

The EU’s share of global GDP fell from 30% in 1993 to 24% in 2013 and is STILL plummeting.

The UK has suffered a negative Trade Balance with The EU for decades, and it is increasing - in April of 2016, our trade deficit with the EU was Ł16 BILLION pounds - FOR THE MONTH.

We BOUGHT Ł16 BILLION POUNDS OF GOODS MORE FROM THE EU, THAN WE SOLD TO THEM.

With an ever increasingly plummeting share of Global GDP the crumbing EU is DESPERATE for trade, so the very notion that they will 'put barriers' in our way and deprive themselves of Ł20 BILLION POUNDS per month trade surplus is banal.

And for those who have been seduced by the propaganda and lies that the UK was economically stronger in the EU, bear in mind that we have been in the EU for over 40 years, then read this tiny snippet from Ed Conway, Economics Editor of Sky News:

"The worst goods trade deficit in more than three centuries"


"Last year Britain recorded its biggest deficit in goods trade since records began.*

Those records technically go all the way back to 1697, though getting hold of the data is rather tricky. The ONS only has numbers going back to 1998, on a comparable basis, while HM Revenue & Customs supposedly has the 300-year series of data, but, when I spoke to them earlier today, weren’t exactly sure where one can lay one’s hands on it."

THE WORST TRADE FIGURES FOR 300 YEARS! And note the difficulty in actually obtaining information from HMRC.

So much for any argument that we are 'economically better off in', and for any belief that the crumbling corrupt EU will salve their wounded pride by making it more difficult to trade with us - as I have said on here for a year - WE DO NOT NEED THE EU, THEY NEEDD US.

As you will witness.
As I pointed out in an earlier discussion, Kirk... we have **** all to sell. That is why we have a trade deficit that continues to rocket. We don't produce. We consume.

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If EU members make it easy for the UK to set up beneficial trade agreements, if they allow the UK to prosper, they will be demonstrating that the UK's exit was a good idea and that may well trigger exits across the board and the complete dismantlement of the EU.

With that in mind;

Do you honestly believe that the bigger pro-EU governments will make it easy for the UK to set up any way decent trade deals?

Honestly?
No I expect they won't make it easy at all.

I still say we will have to accept the free movement of EU citizens and I believe whoever does the negotiations will in the end accept that.

If the UK citizens demand goods from European Countries, then we will still have to import them, no matter the costs of doing so,and the EU knows that.

I say you are right.
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No I expect they won't make it easy at all.

I still say we will have to accept the free movement of EU citizens and I believe whoever does the negotiations will in the end accept that.

If the UK citizens demand goods from European Countries, then we will still have to import them, no matter the costs of doing so,and the EU knows that.

I say you are right.
Well there's a surprise Joey - ignore FACTS and agree with opinion.
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As I pointed out in an earlier discussion, Kirk... we have **** all to sell. That is why we have a trade deficit that continues to rocket. We don't produce. We consume.
That is pure baloney. Just not true, but I have no time at present to answer fully, so I will do so later.
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That is pure baloney. Just not true, but I have no time at present to answer fully, so I will do so later.
I anxiously await more patriotism-fuelled delusions of grandeur, Kirk.

"WE are in the BIG chair" about sums it up. You have left reason behind in your excitement.

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I just had a random thought. The voting results remind me of a poem. Those who are (very) well read in history will know the historical meaning of it.

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If buttercups buzz'd after the bee,
If boats were on land, churches on sea,
If ponies rode men and if grass ate the cows,
And cats should be chased into holes by the mouse,
If the mamas sold their babies
To the gypsies for half a crown;
If summer were spring and the other way round,
Then all the world would be upside down.
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Somebody said this at work yesterday, so what are we now we are no longer in Europe? Honestly I give up at times
Technically you haven't been in Europe since the oceans rose thousands of years ago.
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Why is it so surprising that not everyone on the Brexit side agrees on how many immigrants should come in? I think the goal the Brexiters were trying to accomplish was to give Britain ultimate control over their own affairs. Once Britain has control, all bets are off.
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I anxiously await more patriotism-fuelled delusions of grandeur, Kirk.

"WE are in the BIG chair" about sums it up. You have left reason behind in your excitement.
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The whole EU referendum debate reminds me so much of the debate Americans had in 1776 over whether they were going to be an independent country or not. This cartoon episode gives you the gist of what people were saying back then. And if you squint your eyes Thomas Paine looks a lot like Nigel Farage.

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..it's funny that in a country and a world that says people should be accountable for their words..that the lies that have been told by politicians through this campaign will have no accountability...
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..anyways my thoughts are that the vote has been cast as it were and being disappointed isn't going to change anything...what's equally or more worrying for me is how much this has shown a country divided..we can't do anything about the decision but that divide is in our control to change...and there is no alternative but to support the Brexit vote..there is no point in sitting back and watching and saying...haha, we told you it would fail because in doing so, we're contributing to that fail also and on day 3 or whatever it is, that fail should not even be an option to be considered...it's all about making it work now and hoping that it's possible... and there is no point in saying haha, we won because a country divided has no winners, not one single one...
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"shown a country divided"


Its Not That Bad
Older Folks Voted OUT


Younger Feckers
Voted In
and Stayed in Bed more
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Its Not That Bad
Older Folks Voted OUT


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..if the voting showed a Brexit 'win' then it also showed a country divided, Arista...you can't have one without the other I'm afraid...and the 'younger Feckers' quite possibly didn't vote because they were let down in their guidance to vote (by all parties..)....
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