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billy123 · 31-08-2016, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

You see what just happened here, we've come full circle in the space of 5 posts

Probably

I hope Ireland Leave the EU.
I am in no way knocking the way Ireland operate my problem is with the EU and this is why i voted for the UK to leave!
(no matter how many sweaty middle aged student hippys try and tell me anybody that wanted to leave the EU is a racist)

My entire problem with the EU is the amount of control they hold over finance and lawmaking decisions.

Niamh. · 31-08-2016, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bobnot

Probably

I hope Ireland Leave the EU.
I am in no way knocking the way they operate my problem is with the EU and this is why i voted for the UK to leave no matter how many sweaty middle aged student hippys try and tell me anybody that wanted to leave the EU is a racist

My entire problem with the EU is the amount of control they hold over finance and lawmaking decisions.

Well, this is not a good move on their part if they want to make sure we stay (or maybe they don't actually care either way

) They weren't very understanding of our position with Northern Ireland either now they're leaving the EU

bitontheslide · 31-08-2016, 02:09 PM

the real issue is with large corporations effectively blackmailing countries. If you want these jobs, then we want this tax rate. That has to stop, so while I do not agree with the EU beauracracy, if they don't make a stand now ... it will soon be too late.

billy123 · 31-08-2016, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, this is not a good move on their part if they want to make sure we stay (or maybe they don't actually care either way

) They weren't very understanding of our position with Northern Ireland either now they're leaving the EU

Well my original point does still stand.
Ireland will never be free to make its own decisions while it is part of the EU.

Cherie · 31-08-2016, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the real issue is with large corporations effectively blackmailing countries. If you want these jobs, then we want this tax rate. That has to stop, so while I do not agree with the EU beauracracy, if they don't make a stand now ... it will soon be too late.

The UK gives tax breaks to the film industry ..same thing isn't it?

bitontheslide · 31-08-2016, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

The UK gives tax breaks to the film industry ..same thing isn't it?

they are championing the arts and trying to keep british actors employed ... that is the government actively protecting its people. Can you not see the difference between that and being blackmailed by a large corporation?

Niamh. · 31-08-2016, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the real issue is with large corporations effectively blackmailing countries. If you want these jobs, then we want this tax rate. That has to stop, so while I do not agree with the EU beauracracy, if they don't make a stand now ... it will soon be too late.

True but unless it's a worldwide agreement, it's countries like Ireland who are going to be ruined from the likes of France and Germany making a stand that doesn't effect them at all and using us as the punchbag

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Originally Posted by bobnot

Well my original point does still stand.
Ireland will never be free to make its own decisions while it is part of the EU.

mmm I won't lie, I'm changing my opinion a bit

bitontheslide · 31-08-2016, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

True but unless it's a worldwide agreement, it's countries like Ireland who are going to be ruined from the likes of France and Germany making a stand that doesn't effect them at all and using us the punchbag

i agree, it has to be fair everywhere

Cherie · 31-08-2016, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

they are championing the arts and trying to keep british actors employed ... that is the government actively protecting its people. Can you not see the difference between that and being blackmailed by a large corporation?

No because the Irish government have agreed to it, Apple have been in Ireland since the 80s, they had a small factory in our town employing about 200 people this arrangement has been mutually beneficial over the years, it has enabled highly skilled people educated in Ireland to be retained rather than having to emigrate

I don't see a lot of difference both governments giving tax breaks to multi million pound industries to gain employment for its citizens

Cherie · 31-08-2016, 03:10 PM

Timeline of Apple in Ireland

http://www.eveningecho.ie/cork-news/...-cork/1257434/

Niamh. · 31-08-2016, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Timeline of Apple in Ireland

http://www.eveningecho.ie/cork-news/...-cork/1257434/

almost everyone in Cork either has worked in Apple at some stage or has a family member that has

Have you read this Cherie?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakin...ng-752273.html

Cherie · 31-08-2016, 03:37 PM

Dubbing the EU's ruling "bizarre", Mr O'Leary said: "One of the fundamental principles of the European Union is that each country has its autonomy to make its own tax decisions.

"Frankly the Irish government should turn around - they shouldn't even appeal the decision - they should just write a letter to Europe and tell them politely to ****** off.
"The idea that you have the state aid mob - who've had more court verdicts overturned than any other department in Europe in the last 20 years - come along 10 years after the fact and say, 'no we didn't like that, we think you should have done something else', is frankly bizarre."

Thanks Niamh

Cherie · 01-09-2016, 08:17 AM

The European Union's imposition of a 13 billion euro ($14.5 billion) back tax bill on Apple (AAPL.O) is "total political crap", Chief Executive Tim Cook said in a newspaper interview on Thursday, and anti-U.S. bias may have played a role.

Cook said he would fight closely with Ireland to overturn the ruling, which he said had "no basis in law or in fact".

"No one did anything wrong here and we need to stand together. Ireland is being picked on and this is unacceptable," Cook was quoted as saying by the Irish Independent.

Cook told the newspaper that bias against multinationals from the United States may have been a factor in the decision to impose the bill.

"I think that Apple was targeted here," he said. "And I think that (anti-U.S. sentiment) is one reason why we could have been targeted."

"I think it's a desire to reallocate taxes that should be paid in the US to the EU," he added.

Cook rejected accusation by EU Competition Commissioner Margrethe Vestager that Apple paid just 0.005 percent tax in Ireland in 2014.

"They just picked a number from I don't know where," he said, adding that Apple pays 26 percent per year on its global profits.

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Cook said Apple was committed to expanding its operations in Ireland despite the ruling.

"I feel like Ireland stuck with Apple when it wasn't easy to stick with Apple and now we're sticking with Ireland," he said.

In a separate interview on Thursday with Irish state broadcaster RTE, Cook said the EU decision was "maddening" and that he was very confident his appeal would succeed.