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24-02-2017, 09:01 AM | #51 | |||
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No the worry is the effect on nuclear, which is a poisoned chalice if ever there was one.
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24-02-2017, 09:17 AM | #52 | |||
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Well if you listen to John McDonnell this morning the blame lays not with the current Labour leader but with the man who hasn't led the party for a decade
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24-02-2017, 09:21 AM | #53 | |||
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The Tories will do wonders in Copeland, no more poverty! People are sick of Labour using our NHS as a political pawn and the people of Copeland have seen right through the transparency of Labours campaign.
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24-02-2017, 09:21 AM | #54 | |||
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You mean the man who has been ramping up the disunity for days filling column inches with rubbish? He and his cronies are squarely to blame for drowning out seemingly the only voice that wants to save the NHS...But then Jeremy doesn't have a vested interest does he? Or rather he does but the same as the rest of us.
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24-02-2017, 09:38 AM | #55 | |||
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https://yougov.co.uk/news/categories/voting-intention/ https://medium.com/@theobertram/the-...8ee#.swi1xb6l6 Labour. Did. Not. Lose. Copeland. Because. Of. Tony. Blair. |
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24-02-2017, 09:42 AM | #56 | |||
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24-02-2017, 09:52 AM | #57 | |||
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"Idiots,"
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24-02-2017, 09:53 AM | #58 | |||
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"Unless something drastic happens,"
yes cocky Owen Jones "events" change it all. Last edited by arista; 24-02-2017 at 09:55 AM. |
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24-02-2017, 09:59 AM | #59 | |||
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Look at the media of late, the comments of blair, mandelson, and stupid attention grabbing stunts by watson they for me diluted the message to Copeland.
Not sure why people think Owen Jones is such a corbynite anyway :/
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24-02-2017, 10:11 AM | #60 | |||
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Labour has been far behind in the polls for months and months- the latest interventions are not to blame for their disastorous performance last night. The media has always been hostile to Labour leaders- but Ed Milliband's party held places like Copeland. And as for Owen Jones not being a Corbynite? He campaigned and voted for him. I'll give you this- it's not all down to Corbyn. Labour have some real systemic problems to overcome and a new leader won't necessarily have the solution. But JC has shown repeatedly that he isn't that solution. |
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24-02-2017, 10:17 AM | #61 | |||
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Yes Owens Early years
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24-02-2017, 11:02 AM | #62 | ||
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24-02-2017, 11:05 AM | #63 | ||
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Some people think Blair actually did Corbyn a favour.It seems like he was trying to undermine Corbyn but because everyone hates Blair it did the opposite.
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24-02-2017, 12:18 PM | #64 | |||
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Yes Blair still Haunting everyone Corbyn should have said BLAIR WAS WRONG he has the Fire to Beat the Blair new Labour Side. |
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24-02-2017, 12:33 PM | #65 | |||
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Corbyn said only a few years ago: "No nuclear power, decommission the stations we've got". Not surprising he didn't go down too well in an area so tied up with the nuclear industry
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24-02-2017, 12:36 PM | #66 | |||
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I like Jeremy Corbyn and I think the way he was treated by his MPs made the Party look like a divided shambles, and is probably one of the reasons that they're doing so badly. He needs to resign now though to have any chance of winning the next election, I cba having the tories in power forever more
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24-02-2017, 12:38 PM | #67 | |||
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Ukip are basically over now though so at least there was a positive to come out of this
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24-02-2017, 01:39 PM | #68 | |||
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I was very concerned about UKIP before last night- but if they can't win "Brexit capital" then it doesn't exactly look like they're going to sweep the heartlands with disaffected Labour voters. |
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24-02-2017, 03:17 PM | #69 | |||
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There's literally billboards for UKIP all around Stoke as well lmao poor that!
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24-02-2017, 07:19 PM | #70 | |||
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This isn't new Labour, he couldn't care less if it died on it's arse. Good, I'm glad it or every other coup has failed.
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24-02-2017, 07:29 PM | #71 | |||
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There's only one thing to blame for the Labour defeat ...The Blairites 'new' (fabian) labour party.
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24-02-2017, 08:08 PM | #72 | |||
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24-02-2017, 10:02 PM | #73 | |||
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Yeah... Thanks Copeland, nuclear and the tories a winning combo
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7596231.html
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25-02-2017, 09:43 AM | #74 | |||
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Labour will never recover until the Corbynites desist their selfish agenda and realise that he's killing their party. It's once again the noisy minority making the demands and keeping him in place. Life-long Labour supporters are turning away from their party... it's bad for the country. We need a strong opposition and we just don't have one.
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25-02-2017, 09:54 AM | #75 | |||
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