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Old 17-05-2017, 09:34 PM #1
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I thought you were an atheist Kizzy? Yet here you are using bible references to promote your thread
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Nope, I've never said I was an atheist.
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Thanks Kizzy, I feel his frustration!

The one thing that most people don't have a great deal of understanding of is tax. For most us, our only concern about tax is our own personal tax code, NI contribution and council tax, but if we are going to have any chance of understanding how this Labour government can pay for everything in their manifesto, we need a better understanding of how tax can work in our favour.

We don't need a degree in mathematics to do this; its simple maths we learnt at school but something the right wing tabloids don't want to remind us about. We don't need some magic money tree because the simple truth is, If we increase spending, (something the Tories can't do because they are constantly driving down productivity) we generate more tax, the government gets a return on its spending, we get more employment opportunities and can afford all the things that are being promised by the Labour party.

My frustration is; this is simple economics and the Tory's have the audacity to make it all look like a pipe dream.
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Off topic for a moment!

I heard Corbyn was in Leeds the other day and pulled a crowd of many thousands. Out of interest Kizzy, did you see him?
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I heard Corbyn was in Leeds the other day and pulled a crowd of many thousands. Out of interest Kizzy, did you see him?
No I'm so gutted, my niece was at the manifesto launch in Bradford though she tried to get me in but it was at capacity.
The crowds were HUGE, I really hope they transfer into votes.
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Thanks Kizzy, I feel his frustration!

The one thing that most people don't have a great deal of understanding of is tax. For most us, our only concern about tax is our own personal tax code, NI contribution and council tax, but if we are going to have any chance of understanding how this Labour government can pay for everything in their manifesto, we need a better understanding of how tax can work in our favour.

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My frustration is; this is simple economics and the Tory's have the audacity to make it all look like a pipe dream.
I think they gave up on that model of economics decades ago, the method now is subservience, keep the masses poor, in debt, demoralised, scared, under educated and misinformed.
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I think they gave up on that model of economics decades ago, the method now is subservience, keep the masses poor, in debt, demoralised, scared, under educated and misinformed.
Fear of change is huge.

What I don't understand is, why do we think like we do? did it take something big in our lives to break away from what so many people now accept as the norm?

I don't know about you, but I've never feared change. We went from a four bed town house in Surrey with a massive mortgage, to living on our boat. Just about all our friends are envious and say things like, "I wish we could do that". My answer is always the same, "you can. You don't need to be tied down by the system when there's an alternative that could make your life better".
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