[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Is Tom really that small? Looks about my height and I am 5 ft 6

Yes but women tend to be shorter lol 5 foot 6 isn't small for a woman in my opinion im 5 foot 10 and my mothers 5 foot with a size 1 shoe haha and my dad is 5 foot 6.

Proof of evolution ��

[Glenn-C]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Wrong ,the 2 most popular words on here are RACIST and HOMOPHOBIC

Probably because the two getting the most unfair hate are Sue, the sisters and Raph?

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

But they are not excluding him ,hence him having fun in the pool with them. Having a problem one day with someone does not mean you have to have a problem all of the time. I think Sam was being a bit self pitying about all of that yesterday tbh...noone actually excludes him. They argue, yes.

I honestly think Sue/Hannah.Raph got into Sams head with the 'that group ignore everyone' bull**** that they peddle constantly and thus Sam took the argument way too personally and got paranoid

He even went to the diary room almost weeping over being excluded. If he wasn't in his twenties I'd feel sorry for him.

Joe does keep the newer housemates at a distance though, and he's the "daddy" of the lads.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

He even went to the diary room almost weeping over being excluded. If he wasn't in his twenties I'd feel sorry for him.

Joe does keep the newer housemates at a distance though, and he's the "daddy" of the lads.

Joe likes to keep his clique away from the others.

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

so its ok for women to bait them and push sensitive buttons in order to get a reaction...they are both as bad as each other.

I'm sorry if anyone thinks this is sexist but I don't care really.

I've 2 sons and I've brought them up that no matter what they shouldn't intimidate, get aggressive with or use their size against any woman.

There are differences between the 2 sexes whether people like it or not, usually males are stronger and bigger and they should never use it against a woman, no matter what buttons are pressed.

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Is Tom really that small? Looks about my height and I am 5 ft 6

It's small for a man. I couldn't date a man smaller than me, I'm 5ft 7in. I know it's a terrible thing to judge on and men can't change their height, I just can't look down on a man when kissing or anything.

[Brother Leon]

Sue was more aggresive than him though..

[Babayaro.]

Tbh I don't see any problems here. They both gave as good as they got

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Sue was more aggresive than him though..

yes she totally lost her temper, its kind of the whole point really

and i mean, totally

I dont think Sam can be aggressive tbh, too nice

[azi]

Wow that was scary.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Why is it the guys are supposed to sit back and get insults etc thrown at them,but the women can shout in the guys faces and wag fingers but they " Soon told them" he didn't even get out the pool,for all we know he maybe wanted to confront her face to face,not throw a punch at her.

People are baiting...we can all see clearly who was the aggressor there and it wasn't Sam...

[azi]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

so its ok for women to bait them and push sensitive buttons in order to get a reaction...they are both as bad as each other.

He actually got up aggressively towards her.
Tom broke the DR door. What's wrong with them
They don't know how to argue in words like Sue?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

Yes physically intimidate her which translates to aggressive does it not?

Yes it does. Well done you finally got my point to LT.

Why is Sue being labelled aggressive but the guy isn't? They both shouted, they're both involved in the argument? One answer, because she's a black woman.

On the face of it, neither were aggressive but only Sue was given that label despite Sam also doing behaviour that could be construed as potentially aggressive.

[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Youtube video

What is it with men this series trying to square up to women?

What is it with any of them squaring up with each other this series? It's been full of that.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Paula D

I'm sorry if anyone thinks this is sexist but I don't care really.

I've 2 sons and I've brought them up that no matter what they shouldn't intimidate, get aggressive with or use their size against any woman.

There are differences between the 2 sexes whether people like it or not, usually males are stronger and bigger and they should never use it against a woman, no matter what buttons are pressed.

If you had a daughter I would hope you would tell her the same thing. Young woman these days are more laddish than lads...they get pissed..they fight..they swear...
Sam should have just ignored the stupid cow and leave her looking bad...but I think we all know that's not easy when someone is slagging you off and pointing at you...antagonising you..

[azi]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

If you had a daughter I would hope you would tell her the same thing. Young woman these days are more laddish than lads...they get pissed..they fight..they swear...
Sam should have just ignored the stupid cow and leave her looking bad...but I think we all know that's not easy when someone is slagging you off and pointing at you...antagonising you..

It doesn't matter though. Sam should've fought back with words not get aggressive like that towards a women.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by azi

He actually got up aggressively towards her.
Tom broke the DR door. What's wrong with them
They don't know how to argue in words like Sue?

He got up aggressively ( that's a new one)..she was goading him..she was yelling at the top of her voice slagging him off...he didn't go near her' he stood up in retaliation to confront her. He wasn't half as aggressive as she was.

We are not talking about Tom...

...well they try but the woman has such a big gob on her she won't let them get a word in..

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

He got up aggressively ( that's a new one)..she was goading him..she was yelling at the top of her voice slagging him off...he didn't go near her' he stood up in retaliation to confront her. He wasn't half as aggressive as she was.

We are not talking about Tom...

...well they try but the woman has such a big gob on her she won't let them get a word in..

Why the need to stand up at all?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by azi

It doesn't matter though. Sam should've fought back with words not get aggressive like that towards a women.

Aggressive like what?

Why on earth are people immediately jumping to he was getting out of the pool to square up...I don't get that at all.

Is this sexism? Just because he is male it has to be physical intimidation and such rather than just arguing. We counter the racism with sexism...lovely.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by azi

It doesn't matter though. Sam should've fought back with words not get aggressive like that towards a women.

Sorry...what did he do other than get up?...

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Paula D

Why the need to stand up at all?

Oh FGS....

It's human nature to stand up and be on the same level as people when the are verbally attacking you...

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

If you had a daughter I would hope you would tell her the same thing. Young woman these days are more laddish than lads...they get pissed..they fight..they swear...
Sam should have just ignored the stupid cow and leave her looking bad...but I think we all know that's not easy when someone is slagging you off and pointing at you...antagonising you..

I do have a daughter and no I wouldn't tell her the same thing because it doesn't apply. She's 5ft nothing and no threat to anyone.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by azi

It doesn't matter though. Sam should've fought back with words not get aggressive like that towards a women.

He didn't get aggressive. Where did he get aggressive?
....and please don't answer that question with "well he stood up"...give me a real example.

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Oh FGS....

It's human nature to stand up and be on the same level as people when the are verbally attacking you...

Okay, lets put this another way. If you were having an argument with a child would you stand up over them?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Oh FGS....

It's human nature to stand up and be on the same level as people when the are verbally attacking you...

"attacking"