[hunter_speed]

My opinion is that the media makes out "Conspiracy Theorists" are anti-social and should be ignored, hinting that anti-government thoughts are shite. First off all has anything occured to you, about the following facts:-

• US sell weapons to Saddam (an ally) to fight Iran
  
• Bin Larden is trained by the US to counter russian attacks. Yeahs thats right Bin Larden and the US officials met before, Wikipedia it before you think thats a conspiracy!
  
• 9/11 happened, intellegence says Al-Qaeda did it & there in Afganistan, a report documenting the people in both Twin Towers at the time of the attack, did not have any zionists in it.
  
• Americans invade Iraq and privatise Iraqs oil-industry.
  
• The whole world gets a reaction to the invasion of Iraq and there are terrorists left right and center, even in the Middle-East and the South-Asian countries.
  
• We then further the cause of invasion by saying how bad these terrorists are, and further prolong occupation to wait for the right time to attack the next neigbour Iran. becuase of Irans economic success and there right to enrich uranium. We invade afganistan, notice how were sourrounding Iran (persia) potentially the biggest economy in the middle east.
  
• Israel on the meantime are bombing Palestinians, Violating Syria and Lebanons Airspace, and HAVE NUCLEAR BOMBS,
  
  while the west (mostly controlled by zionists( evidenace being the fact that most senators are zionists and the companies there are owned by zionists, Wikipedia it before you think thats a conspiracy)
  
• Does that not conclude that Century long conspiracy that zionists do control the world in and out of a conspiracy? I mean zionists arived in England before the Irish did.
  
• SERIOUSLY, HOW STUPID CAN THE MAN IN CHARGE OF THE WORLD BE, i mean come-on, on a serious Level with out making it a Joke (which is what they want) how DUMB a CHARACTER can Bush be. If your gonna destroy the world look like your going to do it, not play dumb.
  
• the biggest conclusion is that WITH DEMOCRACY YOU CANT GET ANYTHING
  
• SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, WE USE "DEMOCRACY" TO GET WHAT WE WANT, but its alright becuase were democratic.
  
• Not all europe supports war on Iraq, :- Sweden, Norway, Finland, Iceland, Denmark all rejected to send troops there and support IRAN!!, again looking at the BIOGRAPHIES OF WHOS IN POWER THERE, there is little or no ZIONISTS!
  

[HelpMe]

already a page on this http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...0057#pid970275

[spacebandit]

and of course the conspiracy that the world is ruled by a super secret band of zionists, the The New World Order ...seems you adhere to that one.

Your allegations against "zionists" have a familiar air about them.

We are not democratic, any illusions that we live in a truly democratic country is just that ...... an illusion.

Capitalism is the total and absolute enemy of democracy, capitalism only enriches corporations at the expense of populations, and capitalism is the corporations great enabler.

Wars for money and oil - no conspiracy its a fact, the evidence of who profitted from the war on terror backs it up.

and just why didn't America invade Saudi Arabia...when the US Administration aided and abetted by tame journalists and news media corporations linked Iraq to 9/11 constantly. And even now the link is still apllied even though we know categorically that Iraq had nothing to do with it...when 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi's why didn't America invade Saudi Arabia ?.

No conspiracy - look at the companies who make the most money out of Iraq, not sorry to burst your bubble but they're not Zionist - they are Texan and Virginian, oilmen and businessmen who own majority shares in those companies, and some are senior members of the US Administration, or Bush family members, .....who gave the orders to invade Iraq and line their own pockets.

Not Zionists - though no doubt there are employees, in senior positions and even some partners in those companies who happen to be Jewish - and I suppose you would latch onto that and claim "zionist" conspiracy, well that dog don't hunt.

You claim the Bush actions in Iraq, and, I would hazard a guess, probably very soon in Iran are part of the zionist conspiracy, yet one look at the Bush family business history and you find out who their biggest business benefactors are, and they are not Jewish, they are Saudi.

thats some bizarre zionist conspiracy there, where the biggest players are inextricably linked to Arabs.

The zionist conspiracy is just the bogeyman stories nazis and fascists tell their kids.

PS, the majority of US senators are not "Zionist", not even Jewish, another member here used that exact same argument not too long ago - like I said, a familiar air about your claims - the link you gave is not an active information page, but easy to navigate to the active page from it - and if you add up and include all the dead senators since 1861 you just about get the result you want,


Todays senate has 13 jewish senators out of 100,
does that class as a majority to you ?

[the_stillness]

Originally posted by hunter_speed
My opinion is that the media makes out "Conspiracy Theorists" are anti-social and should be ignored, hinting that anti-government thoughts are s****. First off all has anything occured to you, about the following facts:-

• US sell weapons to Saddam (an ally) to fight Iran
  
• Bin Larden is trained by the US to counter russian attacks. Yeahs thats right Bin Larden and the US officials met before, Wikipedia it before you think thats a conspiracy!
  
• 9/11 happened, intellegence says Al-Qaeda did it & there in Afganistan, a report documenting the people in both Twin Towers at the time of the attack, did not have any zionists in it.
  
• Americans invade Iraq and privatise Iraqs oil-industry.
  
• The whole world gets a reaction to the invasion of Iraq and there are terrorists left right and center, even in the Middle-East and the South-Asian countries.
  
• We then further the cause of invasion by saying how bad these terrorists are, and further prolong occupation to wait for the right time to attack the next neigbour Iran. becuase of Irans economic success and there right to enrich uranium. We invade afganistan, notice how were sourrounding Iran (persia) potentially the biggest economy in the middle east.
  
• Israel on the meantime are bombing Palestinians, Violating Syria and Lebanons Airspace, and HAVE NUCLEAR BOMBS,
  
  while the west (mostly controlled by zionists( evidenace being the fact that most senators are zionists and the companies there are owned by zionists, Wikipedia it before you think thats a conspiracy)
  
• Does that not conclude that Century long conspiracy that zionists do control the world in and out of a conspiracy? I mean zionists arived in England before the Irish did.
  
• SERIOUSLY, HOW STUPID CAN THE MAN IN CHARGE OF THE WORLD BE, i mean come-on, on a serious Level with out making it a Joke (which is what they want) how DUMB a CHARACTER can Bush be. If your going to destroy the world look like your going to do it, not play dumb.
  
• the biggest conclusion is that WITH DEMOCRACY YOU CANT GET ANYTHING
  
• SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, WE USE "DEMOCRACY" TO GET WHAT WE WANT, but its alright becuase were democratic.
  
• Not all europe supports war on Iraq, :- Sweden, Norway, Finland, Iceland, Denmark all rejected to send troops there and support IRAN!!, again looking at the BIOGRAPHIES OF WHOS IN POWER THERE, there is little or no ZIONISTS!
  

You have certainly done your homework on this subject hunter_speed. The web-links you provide - give all the information to back up your view
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/36463/
http://mwcnews.net/content/view/16596&Itemid=1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...n_politicians=
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/121873

You mention - Zionists '7' times? Also - there are always Conspiracy theories flying about. But overwealming evidence to the contrary can certainly quash these theories. The facts are out there - but it is just a case of fitting the pieces together like a jigsaw puzzle. I am personally no expert on the matter - so I can't add much or criticise what you have uncovered on the web, but your findings certainly look interesting - well done

[hunter_speed]

check this out

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id...tionid=3510203

[Benji]

what are "zionist's"?

[the_stillness]

Originally posted by Benji
what are "zionist's"?

Well, I was having a shufty look through some of the old topics in the serious debates part and saw this -
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d=65221&page=1
It reads quite well - but I don't really think about it? I am not jewish

[Benji]

oh right, thanks for that!

[hunter_speed]

So were are the "Oh yeah, 15 cheesy watsits, climbed up the twin towser and detanated TNT", stereotypical sarcasm.

maybe becuase those who follow the crowd with the stereotypical sarcasm dont really have a clue about the topic?

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by hunter_speed
So were are the "Oh yeah, 15 cheesy watsits, climbed up the twin towser and detanated TNT", stereotypical sarcasm.

maybe becuase those who follow the crowd with the stereotypical sarcasm dont really have a clue about the topic?

Well ..... if we are talking about who has a clue....

Originally posted by hunter_speed

while the west (mostly controlled by zionists( evidenace being the fact that most senators are zionists and the companies there are owned by zionists, Wikipedia it before you think thats a conspiracy)

There are 13 Jewish senators out of 100

I pointed it out earlier, you have chosen to ignore it, though it is not difficult to see why you would choose to do that.

Now, who exactly is clueless ?

[hunter_speed]

do you know what AIPAC is and how much power they have over all the senators there?

....


look and learn here


the most powerfull lobby group in america

[robroy_2000]

i think you all should watch loose change

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...29448192753501

[spacebandit]

Originally posted by hunter_speed
do you know what AIPAC is and how much power they have over all the senators there?

....


look and learn here


the most powerfull lobby group in america

yes I know what AIPAC is

and if you look at world history and political developments in the US since September 2001 - they don't have anywhere near the clout of PNAC members. They certrainly have no administration members or senior cabinet officials in the US Administration like PNAC do - even though some have recently resigned - or perhaps your Zionist Cabal used their wily ways to move them aside


I know a conspiracy theory, new world worder, right wing fantasy post and a fascist boogey man story when I see one.

You claimed most senators where zionists - not only were you wrong, something you have yet to acknowledge but the claim is laughable.

there are more catholic senators than jewish, and the rest are christian of one variety or another with the exception of Barak Obama who is a Moslem and a possible Democratic Presidential candidate. there are even Born Again Christian and Fundamentalist Senators in your so called zionist controlled senate, you know, the ones who interpret the bible literally, the ones who believe Israel must be destroyed before they can have their End Of Days and rapture - thats a pretty strange situation for a zionist controlled organisation to be in. Major members who believe they don't get to see G*d until Israel is destroyed

Unless you are now attempting to change the goal posts and are going to intimate that when you said zionists you actually meant the even more ludicrous theory of the a zionist controlled cabal - secretly in charge of all the "western" religions. Be warned you are venturing into David Icke territory

There are plenty of Aryan websites where you can find out information about the zionist cabal, but it wouldn't suprise me to find out you had already been there.