[Shaun]

Yeah I gave up in season three after about five episodes.

[Mokka]

Season 4 release on March 4th... anyone still interested...

season 3 was a tough one to get through... but I did eventually... will probably give the new season a shot

[_Tom_]

Season 4 is out on Netflix now.

There goes my weekend

[Tom4784]

I just finished Season 4 and it was sensational, it was the best season since the first. What a return to form after the trainwreck that was Season 3.

[Jack_]

I could've sworn I'd posted in this thread already but apparently not. So...a few thoughts on this amazing series, of which season 4 I finished the other night.

Season 1 and 2:

Spoiler:

The Underwood's rise to power was truly remarkable, and this show has a weird way about it in which it makes you detest them yet root for them. I LOVE Freddy

A few shoutouts to ~that season two, episode one scene with Frank and Zoe~, truly the most literally jaw-dropping television moment I think I've ever seen my mouth was wide open for the rest of the episode, and I'm not joking. That followed by the 'hunt or be hunted' direct address with the 'FU' cufflinks - one of my favourite of all time

Loved the ending to season two as well with Frank's punching of the oval office desk <3

Season 3:

Spoiler:

...I wish they would bring back the table punching, actually.

This season was pretty drab on the whole but what I hated most about it was Doug ****ing Stamper. In a series that is full of truly detestable, unlikeable characters...and a main one that's a serial murderer, he truly is the creepiest, most repugnant of them all.

I cannot stand him. Nor could I abide the writers' depiction of him this season. Their attempts at making the audience feel sympathy towards him only to them remind us of just how disgusting he is made me feel angry and sick. This all, of course, culminated in a totally unnecessary end for Rachel (</3). I do not watch this show to divulge in crass torture porn, in fact I actively avoid programmes like that, so to be subjected to an hour of it was seriously unpleasant. I also didn't like the way in which a bi/homosexual female character was effectively used as fodder for a perverted, creepy straight old guy. Her attacking him at the end of S2 was a brilliant display of female power and it was all completely decimated and undermined by the way in which she was stalked and treated throughout S3. There was no justification for it any of it as far as I'm concerned.

I thought perhaps he had turned a corner when he drove off, but then of course he turned around and at that point I knew it was all over. He's vile. And so was the writing of this story.

Season 4:

Spoiler:

This was an absolutely stellar season and I echo what Dezzy said.

Episode 4's ~incident~ is on par with said scene from season 2 in terms of jaw-dropping-ness, I totally didn't see it coming and it knocked me for six. Meechum </3

There were some incredibly acted scenes this season with some great quotes - ones that spring to mind are Frank and Claire's 'you don't know what it means to have nothing', Frank and Cathy in the oval office and of course the final scene of the season where Claire breaks the fourth with Frank's 'that's right, we don't submit to terror. We make the terror' - chills much?! When she turned her head when he started speaking I was like OMG what's going on. Intrigued to see whether she'll get direct addresses next season

I am so, so glad that Tom's digging amounted to something and the way in which it progressed with Remy, Jackie and Walker coming on board, and the fact that it was at least published...I was worried the writers would find a way to bury it, or that he'd even be killed. I just really hope now that this is the beginning of the end for the Underwood's...I guess if there's more seasons to come then perhaps not but I swear if this show doesn't end with impeachment and a prison sentence for the both of them (I won't be happy with him dying) I'm not going to be pleased. It's called House of Cards for a reason, it has to topple at some point. That's the only reason I'm watching.

I was also surprised that they didn't conclude the election this season, I had assumed going into it that the last episode would consist of his re-election, but perhaps that may now mean going into season five things may not necessarily go their way?

Was nice to see Zoe and Russo cameos too. One thing that I don't understand looking back though were the Frank and Claire violent hallucinations in the first half of the season...what were they supposed to symbolise? I thought they were foreshadowing a genuine fight towards the end like that, but it never materialised.

One last thing: that woman needs to stay the **** away from Doug. Ew.

There were so many good things about this season, I'm so excited for the next one now!

[Shaun]

Just finishing season 3 now since I've heard good things about the fourth... it isn't as bad as I recall, just disappointing seeing what directions the characters are headed in.

The gay subtext in this season is unreal though Yates after that presidential d.

[Shaun]

Season 4 was great. The ending shot of Claire getting in on the 4th wall <3

[Jack_]

Just finished season five and it's now my favourite yet!

Spoiler:

Well well well, this show has been priming for a Claire presidency for about two seasons now so I'm completely unsurprised but did think they'd have it as the closing scene on the last ever episode (after she'd killed Frank) so in that respect I'm shocked they've done it so early. I'm guessing Mark Usher will be the equivalent in my theory now after his wave at the inauguration (shook)

How cool was it when she had her first monologue? when that scene started I was like 'she'll talk to us by the end of this season' and boom there it was. Talking of monologues, Frank had some great ones this season - my favourite was the one of him around DC landmarks after the election episode (which was awesome in itself)

I've really enjoyed this season, there's been plenty of twists and interesting plot lines (even if I did see Yates' death and the Cathy stairs push coming a mile off). They also really managed to strike the tone of real-life politics perfectly and mirror what's actually going on atm with regards to terror, it's chilling

I'm glad their administration is somewhat starting to crumble but I am a little tired of the people ~in the know~ being killed off so there's no trace, it's a bit lazy and also they're being replaced with even more deplorable people so there's very few to root for. I realise that's what this show is about but still, I want them to fall!

Doug continues to be a pathetic creep of a man. That is all.

And I do hope that Frank will continue to play a large role in the next season, Claire is nowhere near as fun a character as he is.

[Shaun]

Can't edit the title (thanks James) but next season - 6 - will be the last... for obvious reasons.

[Jack_]

It's probably for the best anyway. There was only so long they could keep this whole charade going, and as much as I enjoyed S5, I'm longing for a satisfying conclusion to the story. A tad annoying we'll never know how long it might've lasted but oh well.

Anyway, my only requests are:

a) that the Underwood's finally get their comeuppance (a house of cards must fall), and that
b) it isn't through Frank being killed off. That would be beyond trite.

[James]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Can't edit the title (thanks James) but next season - 6 - will be the last... for obvious reasons.

I've edited it for you. The thread title-edit time limit was added for a reason.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by James

I've edited it for you. The thread title-edit time limit was added for a reason.

What is the reason?

[James]

It was causing the forum to go slow when editing long threads (I think).

I've always thought it can make thread titles a bit confusing when a title gets edited and it doesn't match the whole thread content. That's why when I do it I added the word 'Update' or 'Latest' in brackets, like I did with this thread.

[Brother Leon]

Not Kevin Spacey as well ffs.



Better to end it than have the show become about Claire like some online are suggesting though.

[James]

.....News of the political drama’s impending swan song comes less than 24 hours after actor Anthony Rapp accused House of Cards leading man Kevin Spacey of making a sexual advance at him when he was 14. Multiple sources confirm, however, that the decision to bring HoC to an end was made months ago and was not in response to the allegations. (A Netlix rep confirms this.).....

.....Production on House of Cards‘ sixth and final season began earlier this month despite the fact that Netflix never officially confirmed that it had even ordered a Season 6. (The streamer has always played by its own unique rules when it comes to announcing renewals.)

http://tvline.com/2017/10/30/house-o...-kevin-spacey/

A lot of filming still to do.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Not Kevin Spacey as well ffs.



Better to end it than have the show become about Claire like some online are suggesting though.

Yeah, some of the suggestions on Reddit are 'let's kill him off episode 1 and then the show can continue' err...no thanks.

Robin is a fantastic actress but Claire as a character is awful, she doesn't have the charm or the wit that Frank does. There's a reason why season 3 is the worst of them all, and it's because it centred around her (and Doug).

Whatever the ending they've written, I hope they don't change it.

[Tom4784]

Season 3 was the worst one mainly because of Francis tbh, that was the series where he became too much of a pantomime villain and he lost a lot of nuance that the character had.

[Jack_]

I don't know, the two central storylines of season 3 were Doug's creepy obsession with Rachel and her dragged out, offensively unnecessary and lowkey misogynistic demise - which was all kinds of gross, and the other revolved around Claire deciding whether to leave Frank - which was tiresome and not at all interesting.

I enjoy the Underwood's dynamic, but Claire is not a rootable character in the same way he is. She's just a straight up bitch, and that's no fun.

[Tom4784]

I didn't see her as a bitch at all in Season 3, she was calling him out on his **** because he no longer valued their relationship as an equal partnership. The fact that he was written so lopsided in that season was the cause of the issues in their story line.

[Jack_]

Oh I don't mean she was a bitch in season 3 specifically (I also sided with her, I just found the storyline tedious), I mean her character is a bitch in general, even more so into 4 and 5. Frank's a sociopathic murderer, but he is at least charming, witty and lowkey rootable. She has none of that and is completely dislikable.

[Tom4784]

I have to disagree, it's only really the last season when they started to present her as an out and out villain like Francis rather than someone who did terrible things but felt conflicted about it. I always found her to be quite a likable and sympathetic character.

For me, Francis never really recovered as a character after the mess that was Season 3.

[Tom4784]

Spacey's been accused by multiple people who work or have worked on House of Cards of sexual harassment.

I don't think he'll be in the last season.

[Locke.]

I don't think there will be a last season now, would be very surprised if they continue it without him and they definitely can't continue it with him.

[Jack_]

Sigh. I'm devastated, there's nothing more frustrating than a show not getting a proper conclusion.

Frank Underwood is House of Cards. As painful as this is, it must not continue. I'd rather they just released the scripts online so we can see how it would've ended.

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I have to disagree, it's only really the last season when they started to present her as an out and out villain like Francis rather than someone who did terrible things but felt conflicted about it. I always found her to be quite a likable and sympathetic character.

For me, Francis never really recovered as a character after the mess that was Season 3.

See the whole 'I'm a good person deep down' schtick she had going on never washed with me, I always found it completely insincere. Whether it was written deliberately like that or is just my own personal perception idk, but I've always found her a ****, in many ways even worse than Frank - like way she treated that artist in the first two seasons, and her cutting remark to Donald Blythe in S5. What you see is what you get with him, but her wishy-washy attitude is just annoying.

[Toy Soldier]

I bet they try to continue by killing (or imprisoning) him off-screen and have Claire as the protagonist and it'll be ****.