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Old 13-01-2018, 12:07 AM #51
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No offence Vicky but kids pick up stuff from their parents and you constantly bang on about transsexuals being men so....
I assure you I have never spoke to my 5 year old child about transsexuals Why on earth you would think I would is beyond me
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I know, young kids are prone to nightmares for goodness sake.
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No offence Vicky but kids pick up stuff from their parents and you constantly bang on about transsexuals being men so....
are you forgetting Vicky's a mother? A bit tasteless imo
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My daughter who is 5 can tell men from women easily, even when the men are in makeup and such. Led to quite an embarassing situation on a bus actually. A person got on, little dress, perfect hair and makeup...and my daughter who is 5 pointed at them and said quite loudly 'thats a boy mammy, why is he wearing a dress'. I was a bit mortified but the guy was fine about it. Sat talking to her for a bit and was telling her about how some boys like to wear makeup and look 'like girls' and such. Still never found out if he was just a feminine guy, trans or a drag queen actually.
It’s great how kids aren’t really taught gender stereotypes nowadays in such an aggressive format as they were before, and the difference between what i was taught and observing teaching when i’m at work is really quite something.

i remember being told at primary school that “blue is for boys and pink is for girls.” In addition to this, the word “gay” was banned, no matter what context it was used in. I’m 25, so this is probably going back around 2000-2002, which is actually quite a long time ago thinking about it.

not too long ago, the school had an assembly where a female firefighter, a male nurse and a policewoman came in to try and tackle gender stereotypes in the workplace and I think it worked. I would also say that I am also an example of fighting gender stereotypes in the workplace to an extent because previously, male primary school teachers/teaching assistants were almost unheard of, whereas there are increasingly more and more men taking on the job, which I think is fantastic. I was never taught by a man until secondary school, but I think that equality is so important
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i didn’t mean it like that

nah like i was just imagining it in my head, i realise now i said that quite bluntly, sorry about that
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It’s great how kids aren’t really taught gender stereotypes nowadays in such an aggressive format as they were before, and the difference between what i was taught and observing teaching when i’m at work is really quite something.

i remember being told at primary school that “blue is for boys and pink is for girls.” In addition to this, the word “gay” was banned, no matter what context it was used in. I’m 25, so this is probably going back around 2000-2002, which is actually quite a long time ago thinking about it.

not too long ago, the school had an assembly where a female firefighter, a male nurse and a policewoman came in to try and tackle gender stereotypes in the workplace and I think it worked. I would also say that I am also an example of fighting gender stereotypes in the workplace to an extent because previously, male primary school teachers/teaching assistants were almost unheard of, whereas there are increasingly more and more men taking on the job, which I think is fantastic. I was never taught by a man until secondary school, but I think that equality is so important
I think gender stereotypes are worse today than when I was a kid actually. Even ****ing kider eggs are 'gendered' . Pink princess ones for girls, blue monster/superhero ones for boys. My kids get both tbh, and my husband whinges a bit when I bring my son in with the princess ones (though oddly enough doesn't really say anything when I get my daughter the blue one)..and when I let him put my daughters Elsa dress on and that..but I reckon, kids are ****ing kids. Kids like dress up. Boys like pretty things and sometimes girls like to get dirty. If my boy wants to wear a princess dres, whats the bloody harm
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And you as a parent are better equipped to tell Vicky this about her own children ok...
Not at all.

I don't have to be a parent to witness how their elders can easily affect things they say and believe....infact we all pick stuff up off our parents.

I grew up looking after my little brother and cousins half my age who would pick up any swear word I said thank god they've now come into their own but at the time they were like sponges.

Never babysit and sing Winnie the **** instead of winnie the poo because when the parents come home and they are still singing it you get into trouble.
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I think gender stereotypes are worse today than when I was a kid actually. Even ****ing kider eggs are 'gendered' . Pink princess ones for girls, blue monster/superhero ones for boys. My kids get both tbh, and my husband whinges a bit when I bring my son in with the princess ones (though oddly enough doesn't really say anything when I get my daughter the blue one)..and when I let him put my daughters Elsa dress on and that..but I reckon, kids are ****ing kids. Kids like dress up. Boys like pretty things and sometimes girls like to get dirty. If my boy wants to wear a princess dres, whats the bloody harm
absolutely and i don’t understand people who claim that we are forcing kids to question their gender, because they are just being encouraged to not believe in gender stereotypes
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I hope not lol! Maybe I put it wrong it's just the way you word things for example in the post about the transexual your child was confused by you referered to that person as a him.

It doesn't mean bad parenting it's just your beliefs and you shouldn't be expected to Ofcom your mouth all the time....**** just slips out.
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Not at all.

I don't have to be a parent to witness how their elders can easily affect things they say and believe....infact we all pick stuff up off our parents.

I grew up looking after my little brother and cousins half my age who would pick up any swear word I said thank god they've now come into their own but at the time they were like sponges.

Never babysit and sing Winnie the **** instead of winnie the poo because when the parents come home and they are still singing it you get into trouble.
But you just commented on a specific situation with Vicky and her children so... nothing to do with your babysitting duties.
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I hope not lol! Maybe I put it wrong it's just the way you word things for example in the post about the transexual your child was confused by you referee to that person as a him.

It doesn't mean bad parenting it's just your beliefs and you shouldn't be expected to Ofcom your mouth all the time....**** just slips out.
Well, who knows what pronoun that person preferred. Just because he wore a dress and makeup doesn't mean he wanted to be known as "she".
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But you just commented on a specific situation with Vicky and her children so... nothing to do with your babysitting duties.
I'm commenting on a personal post by responding with another.

Ive not said anything derogatory and people who been offended by that post need to lighten up after all isn't this years cbb all about freedom of speech?

Also I put my own personal experience in that to just highlight kids pick up stuff we arnt aware we are doing.
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I'm commenting on a personal post by responding with another.

Ive not said anything derogatory and people who been offended by that post need to lighten up after all isn't this years cbb all about freedom of speech?

Also I put my own personal experience in that to just highlight kids pick up stuff we arnt aware we are doing.
And that doesn't include me being able to question your posts? Ok.
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I said nothing at all about him at all He sat in the priority seat bit on the bus while she was in her pram so he was opposite her and she literally pointed right at him and spoke pretty loudly. I did apologize but thats when he said all was fine and started talking to her about boys liking wearing makeup and such. I assume from what he said that he is the right pronoun for him though...as surely he wouldn't be talking bout himself as a boy who likes to wear makeup if he was trans. I am not sure though as as I said, still not sure if he was trans, just feminine or a drag queen Have to admit though, glad he was on about challenging stereotypes, rather than trying to tell her he has a female brain or something...not sure how I would have handled that :S So I guess I was lucky in that respect
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I said nothing at all about him at all He sat in the priority seat bit on the bus while she was in her pram so he was opposite her and she literally pointed right at him and spoke pretty loudly. I did apologize but thats when he said all was fine and started talking to her about boys liking wearing makeup and such. I assume from what he said that he is the right pronoun for him though...as surely he wouldn't be talking bout himself as a boy who likes to wear makeup if he was trans. I am not sure though as as I said, still not sure if he was trans, just feminine or a drag queen Have to admit though, glad he was on about challenging stereotypes, rather than trying to tell her he has a female brain or something...not sure how I would have handled that :S So I guess I was lucky in that respect
India would've dragged her out of that pram!!!
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When did I ever say you couldn't question my posts?

It's a forum and it's called debating.

This isn't question time. ....sorry you got so offended.
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Yeah thats just daft. I don't see how NOT imposing stereotypes on our kids means we are making them question their gender, at all. Making them question their gender would be rigidly enforcing stereptypes surely..as then for example little boys will think 'Oh well I like wearing dresses and want to look pretty...that must mean I am actually a girl' and such. Rather than them knowing its entirely normal to like both feminine and masculine things and stereotypes/preferences have no relation to wether you are a boy or a girl.
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