[andybigbro]

At least 17 people were dead after a 19-year-old former student opened fire at a South Florida high school on Wednesday afternoon, officials said.

The suspect was identified as Nikolaus Cruz, a former student who had been expelled from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel said. He said 14 to 18 other peopole were injured in addition to the 17 people who were killed.

Florida school shooting suspect 'approximately 18 years old', sheriff says

The suspect "was taken into custody about an hour after he left Stoneman Douglas after he committed this horrific, detestable act," Israel said. Federal and local authorities told NBC News there was no indication that the gunman had an accomplice or accomplices.

Read more here: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...school-n848101

[arista]

[17 in Florida high school shooting

The suspected gunman, named by an official as Nikolaus Cruz,
is a former student and was arrested near the school, police say.]

https://news.sky.com/story/twenty-hu...chool-11250721




Sad day in Florida

[RileyH]

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[andybigbro]

It’s so horrendous. The poor kids and the families of the children dead

They need to get rid of guns. It’s ridiculous!

[smudgie]

Sorry, I didn’t see this when I posted my thread..I did look.
Can mods delete mine please.

This is the 18th school shooting this year in America.
That’s roughly 3 each school week.
Total madness.

[Rob!]

Jesus

"This is not the time for that conversation."

[Robertocarlo]

Terrible. What is it with American school kids these days? I remember a time when we went to school and if there was a falling out then it was sorted out with a fight at the school gate?

[LaLaLand]

Just so awful.

[arista]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

It’s so horrendous. The poor kids and the families of the children dead

They need to get rid of guns. It’s ridiculous!

Sadly America
was built on guns
never gonna change.

[LaLaLand]

Saddens and shocks me that so, so many years after the whole Columbine incident we're no different or better off in regards to guns in America. In fact, probably worse.

[arista]

[Vicky.]

Oh god

RIP to those who have died, and quick recoveries to those injured

[Macie Lightfoot]

"Why get rid of guns when we can just get rid of no gun zones" --Conservatives after the 18th school shooting in the past 45 days.

[Jessica.]

It was done by a white guy called Nikolas Cruz and there is outrage from American people of all ethnicities because they don't think he can identify as white with a "hispanic" surname. Why is nobody still accepting that the main problem is just Americans in general having access to guns and it's nothing to do with ethnic background.

[Alf]

According to a student, in an interview, he said people predicted that he would do that, and the students used to joke about how he'd be the one to do something like that.

[Maru]

I read this when it broke before there was a count. Someone also attempted to enter the NSA unauthorized today and ended up having their vehicle's windshield shot through... bad news day.

[Ninastar]

Awful. Just about crying reading all the updates

[Eddie.]

WTF RIP </3

[-Sue-]

awful and heartbreaking for all the innocent victims and their families our thoughts and prayers are with you all

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by arista

Sadly America
was built on guns
never go change.

Yep.

[Ammi]

...this is so, so sad..so tragic.....those poor helpless young people and what their families are going through right now, awful...’little was known about Cruz’ and yet the gun laws allowed him to be so easily armed with a rifle, someone who little was known about...its, so wrong, the American gun laws are so wrong...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by arista

Sadly America
was built on guns
never go change.

..well then it should be rebuild without so many guns, Arista..with a much stricter control..because this ‘building’ isn’t working for so many grieving families...

[LeatherTrumpet]

Its just a symptom of a different culture and society, pretty pointless trying to judge it by our own. Its the price Americans pay for their gun freedom and most are happy to pay it - hence all the shootings/

[Ammi]

..but isn’t that the ‘vogue’ of society atm...to ‘judge cultures by our own’...and to ‘judge’ what is and what is not needed ‘by our own’...what isn’t needed (imo..)...is a leader who absolutely in his judgement, supports, rather than addresses the deaths in his country that may have been avoided...those 17 young people who have lost their lives, may have not wished for any type of ‘gun freedom’ but they and their families have paid very, very dearly for the ease of control which had been forced on them...

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..but isn’t that the ‘vogue’ of society atm...to ‘judge cultures by our own’...and to ‘judge’ what is and what is not needed ‘by our own’...what isn’t needed (imo..)...is a leader who absolutely in his judgement, supports, rather than addresses the deaths in his country that may have been avoided...those 17 young people who have lost their lives, may have not wished for any type of ‘gun freedom’ but they and their families have paid very, very dearly for the ease of control which had been forced on them...

More people were killed in the Manchester arena massacre and there wasn't a gun in sight, he used a bomb, bombs are illeagal, but that didn't stop him, They were killed by a lunatic criminal.

86 people were killed in Nice when a truck drove into people, trucks are legal in France, did you call for this deadly weapon to be made illeagal? They were killed by a lunatic criminal.

And these children were also killed by a lunatic criminal.


A far better argument would be, better security in schools. Give jobs to veterans and ex police as security roaming the school corridors. Teachers armed and trained. Just that would prevent anybody from even attempting doing this sort of thing in the first place. The alternative is try and take the peoples guns of them, and you'll get civil war.