[Vicky.]

The amount of people minimizing and defending this behavior is insane. Labour MPs saying on twitter 'good on him for admitting it' and such Well yes, I guess its good in a way that he is taking responsibility, but it hardly makes him a saint given he is admitting gross behaviour.

https://twitter.com/michaelgove/stat...43533048406020

[LeatherTrumpet]

people have invested so much sainthood in jo cox its hard now to realise that her husband was a wanker i guess is what is going on?

[GoldHeart]

As i've said before nobody expected Brendan Cox to be a saint , but we all felt sympathy for the devastating brutal loss of his wife . We also assumed he was a decent guy , come on how could any of us expect this from him ?? .

But just shows none of us actually know these people or what's really going on behind the scenes . Yes hes admitted to it but he's still in the wrong .

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

The amount of people minimizing and defending this behavior is insane. Labour MPs saying on twitter 'good on him for admitting it' and such Well yes, I guess its good in a way that he is taking responsibility, but it hardly makes him a saint given he is admitting gross behaviour.

https://twitter.com/michaelgove/stat...43533048406020

The same people cyber hunted Toby Young into resigning, over some text messages only a few months back. Shows you just how much of a game it is to them.

[Alf]

He was obviously used for the remain campaign. Grieving widower of remain politician tragically murdered.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Alf

He was obviously used for the remain campaign. Grieving widower of remain politician tragically murdered.

Well it didn't make a difference , we still left .

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

She was just another politician at the time though, she wasn't the new Jesus yet.

Congrats on managing to find a take as gross as this one, I guess

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Alf

The same people cyber hunted Toby Young into resigning, over some text messages only a few months back. Shows you just how much of a game it is to them.

Well quite.

I don't think issues like this should be made into some ridiculous political point scoring exercise. but it seems these days everything must be made into that. I find it quite pathetic tbh.

[Kizzy]

The difference of course being they were actual messages and not an allegation he wrote a message, there is a difference.

Maybe it would've been better for him if he had gone through the appropriate disciplinary procedures in 2015, even if it would have been politically embarrassing for his wife, it would have prevented all this did he/ didn't he today?

[parmnion]

Luckily he is not donald trump, therefore the left will shut up and sweep it under the carpet rather than climb on a padastool to begin the rancid hate mongering of the individual.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

'he cornered her in a bar, plied her with drink, 'grabbed her by the hips, pulled her hair, forced his thumb into her mouth in a sexual way' and later sent her obscene text messages.'

This sounds like a line from 50 shades... :/

Only its not.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Only its not.

What is it then, look at that rationally what is really happening in that scenario?

He saw her in a bar
He bought her a drink
They danced
They kissed
There was some sexual contact
They exchanged phone numbers

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What is it then, look at that rationally what is really happening in that scenario?

He saw her in a bar
He bought her a drink
They danced
They kissed
There was some sexual contact
They exchanged phone numbers

Its a shame only one side wanted all that.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Its a shame only one side wanted all that.

Ok

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Ok

Sorry, im not really following...


Are you being so dismissive because you think its ok to be a sex pest on woman on a night out when she has clearly told you NO.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What is it then, look at that rationally what is really happening in that scenario?

He saw her in a bar
He bought her a drink
They danced
They kissed
There was some sexual contact
They exchanged phone numbers

Sounds very much like you are trying to justify his behaviour and minimise the seriousness of these allegations

[joeysteele]

No one I can see is even attempting to brush anything under the carpet.
He also is not even a Labour MP or even a potential electoral candidate.
This is his personal life and he is wrong as to his behaviour,he has said so,he has stepped down from the charity posts.
While commendable in doing so,his admission of overstepping things with other Women is then fact and he has done wrong.

All this however has nothing to do with his Wife who lost her life by being so brutally murdered as she has.

The only people making issues of this are those casting unnecessary slurs and dragging her onto this.
Someone described her as being portrayed as the second Jesus.
Shocking and in the worst taste.

Then its tried to accuse the left of being inappropriate.
I really despair and get more sickened on here each day that passes now.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

No one I can see is even attempting to brush anything under the carpet.
He also is not even a Labour MP or even a potential electoral candidate.
This is his personal life and he is wrong as to his behaviour,he has said so,he has stepped down from the charity posts.
While commendable in doing so,his admission of overstepping things with other Women is then fact and he has done wrong.

All this however has nothing to do with his Wife who lost her life by being so brutally murdered as she has.

The only people making issues of this are those casting unnecessary slurs and dragging her onto this.
Someone described her as being portrayed as the second Jesus.
Shocking and in the worst taste.

Then its tried to accuse the left of being inappropriate.
I really despair and get more sickened on here each day that passes now.

No one is forcing you to stay, sounds like you could do with a long break...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Sounds very much like you are trying to justify his behaviour and minimise the seriousness of these allegations

Nope I'm explaining another way to look at some very inventive journalism, please don't accuse me of anything MTVN.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

No one I can see is even attempting to brush anything under the carpet.
He also is not even a Labour MP or even a potential electoral candidate.
This is his personal life and he is wrong as to his behaviour,he has said so,he has stepped down from the charity posts.
While commendable in doing so,his admission of overstepping things with other Women is then fact and he has done wrong.

All this however has nothing to do with his Wife who lost her life by being so brutally murdered as she has.

The only people making issues of this are those casting unnecessary slurs and dragging her onto this.
Someone described her as being portrayed as the second Jesus.
Shocking and in the worst taste.

Then its tried to accuse the left of being inappropriate.
I really despair and get more sickened on here each day that passes now.

Ah I'm ignoring the pitchfork waving now, it's shocking isn't it one unsubstantiated accusation has effectively brought down 2 charities and further decimated a family already reeling, nice job gutter press.

What's in todays news?...Damian ( I haven't done anything wrong!) Green still in denial following an inquiry by the propriety and ethics team :/
Double standards.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No one is forcing you to stay, sounds like you could do with a long break...

I'm well aware 'no one' is forcing me to stay on here.

However and greatly thankfully I don't need nor want, any sarcastic or otherwise advice from 'you' whatsoever.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I'm well aware 'no one' is forcing me to stay on here.

However and greatly thankfully I don't need nor want, any sarcastic or otherwise advice from 'you' whatsoever.

No need to snap

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Nope I'm explaining another way to look at some very inventive journalism, please don't accuse me of anything MTVN.

Okay Kizzy to play devils advocate ,we all know men can be in a tricky situation if they get flirtatious with women they fancy . A woman won't face the same repercussions if a man isn't interested in them.

But Brendan has admitted he overstepped the line and clearly he harassed some women, who he wasn't even dating and he clearly didn't take no for an answer and kept pestering .

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Okay Kizzy to play devils advocate ,we all know men can be in a tricky situation if they get flirtatious with women they fancy . A woman won't face the same repercussions if a man isn't interested in them.

But Brendan has admitted he overstepped the line and clearly he harassed some women, who he wasn't even dating and he clearly didn't take no for an answer and kept pestering .

Not true at all in any organisation there is the same procedure in relation to equality and diversity as men :/

We don't know what happened, as there was no inquiry.. You've just cobbled that together from bits reported in the media.
He admitted his behaviour towards one woman was inappropriate that's all, and he stepped down at the time.

He has admitted his inappropriate behaviour publically made a conscious effort to show that it was a past mistake as noted by his friends, family, colleagues and MPs.

I don't know what is required here ... for him to wear a millstone of shame for the next 10yrs?
No! you can't run your dead wifes memorial any longer!!... You're not WORTHY! :/

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

No one I can see is even attempting to brush anything under the carpet.
He also is not even a Labour MP or even a potential electoral candidate.
This is his personal life and he is wrong as to his behaviour,he has said so,he has stepped down from the charity posts.
While commendable in doing so,his admission of overstepping things with other Women is then fact and he has done wrong.

All this however has nothing to do with his Wife who lost her life by being so brutally murdered as she has.

The only people making issues of this are those casting unnecessary slurs and dragging her onto this.
Someone described her as being portrayed as the second Jesus.
Shocking and in the worst taste.

Then its tried to accuse the left of being inappropriate.
I really despair and get more sickened on here each day that passes now.

You really don't think Kizzy is making excuses for his behaviour?

I haven't seen a single comment casting aspersions at his wife, other than to say that when she was murdered she didn't suddenly become a saint, which is factually correct unless you know otherwise?