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adding more guns is making negative changes not good ones
I think the guns will already be there pet.....arm the teachers then that hero teacher coyld maybe have shot the shooter rather than have to put his body i the line of fire....anyway, im sure teachers have been listened to prior to any decision.
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That is great to vote in a poll like that but its only their state legislators that can do anything about it
aren't they supposed to be democratic and do what the people want though? I thought that's what you said a minute ago
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i wouldn't feel that safe knowing that my teacher has a gun tbh
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I think the guns will already be there pet.....arm the teachers then that hero teacher coyld maybe have shot the shooter rather than have to put his body i the line of fire....anyway, im sure teachers have been listened to prior to any decision.
Unless they get an unhinged teacher on a bad day........sugarplum
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Unless they get an unhinged teacher on a bad day........sugarplum
Ifs and buts...what if guns were banned..will all the idiots hand them in...no course not....they will hoard them then walk into a school unchallenged breezing from room to room as everyone looks around for a gun that wont be there....8 mins later as the cops arrive......at least give tge kids a fighting chanxe fgs....do you have another idea?
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He is making changes, unlike his predecesers....i must say though...all these plebs on the streets demanding action....blocking ambulances on emergences...absolute scum.
That is obscenely ignorant I'm afraid. Because of how the American political system works, republicans have prevented anyone even having a vote on stricter laws, because the NRA basically owns them.

As for those plebes on the street, what is an appropriate protest to highlight fact they are getting shot while attending lessons in school?
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That is obscenely ignorant I'm afraid. Because of how the American political system works, republicans have prevented anyone even having a vote on stricter laws, because the NRA basically owns them.

As for those plebes on the street, what is an appropriate protest to highlight fact they are getting shot while attending lessons in school?
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owns them.

As for those plebes on the street, what is an appropriate protest to highlight fact they are getting shot while attending lessons in school?
How many of the people attending that particular protest has been shot at in lessons?
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How many of the people attending that particular protest has been shot at in lessons?
you don't have to experience it to know that it's wrong and protest it?
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That is obscenely ignorant I'm afraid. Because of how the American political system works, republicans have prevented anyone even having a vote on stricter laws, because the NRA basically owns them.

As for those plebes on the street, what is an appropriate protest to highlight fact they are getting shot while attending lessons in school?
Ignorant...nah sorry..

Trump is up against exactly the same **** as the former presidents, yet here he is, inviting survivors and teachers to discuss and brainstorm...dont ever remember seeing that before..hes gonna make it harder to get guns...unlike the former presidents....


The plebs on the street would be better advised not to block ambulances on the way to save lives when they are protesting at the loss of life....yes, it would be more appropriate and less scummy not to block ambulances whilst protesting about saving lives.
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Ifs and buts...what if guns were banned..will all the idiots hand them in...no course not....they will hoard them then walk into a school unchallenged breezing from room to room as everyone looks around for a gun that wont be there....8 mins later as the cops arrive......at least give tge kids a fighting chanxe fgs....do you have another idea?
Yes stricter gun laws
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aren't they supposed to be democratic and do what the people want though? I thought that's what you said a minute ago
No a poll for Time is capitalism at work, choosing and petitioning your state legislator is democracy
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Yes stricter gun laws
Looks to me like thats what he is striving for.
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A Poll represents what the public want, what the public want is democracy

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Looks to me like thats what he is striving for.
I'll believe that when I see it tbh
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Ignorant...nah sorry..

Trump is up against exactly the same **** as the former presidents, yet here he is, inviting survivors and teachers to discuss and brainstorm...dont ever remember seeing that before..hes gonna make it harder to get guns...unlike the former presidents....


The plebs on the street would be better advised not to block ambulances on the way to save lives when they are protesting at the loss of life....yes, it would be more appropriate and less scummy not to block ambulances whilst protesting about saving lives.
That's because Obama had his meetings with the families by enforcing a press blackout.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video...=.6248fc3e9450

I hate posting that link, because I don't view the situation as a competition between trump and president Obama, but hopefully with more information, you'll be better informed.

Where has the blocking ambulances stuff come from? Were the kids on the street with the intention of blocking them or was it an accident? If it was an accident, do you believe any form of public protest, which is one of the tenets of free speech should be allowed?
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How many of the people attending that particular protest has been shot at in lessons?
Is this a serious question?

Only people directly affected by issues have the right to stand against them?
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No accident...protestors waving others into the path of the ambulance as other protestors cheer and clap if they aint filming on thier phones....have a look, get yourself better informed.
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No accident...protestors waving others into the path of the ambulance as other protestors cheer and clap if they aint filming on thier phones....have a look, get yourself better informed.
You see, I'm not impervious to outside information. If this is true, then I agree that's not a good thing to do and they should be prosecuted.

Have you got a link?

Have you looked at the link that I provided to you?
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You see, I'm not impervious to outside information. If this is true, then I agree that's not a good thing to do and they should be prosecuted.

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Have you looked at the link that I provided to you?
Yeah i looked...not sure what a meeting with grieving families would achieve without teachers being there but still..it was behind closed doors so i guess we will never know.
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Yeah i looked...not sure what a meeting with grieving families would achieve without teachers being there but still..it was behind closed doors so i guess we will never know.
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Trump needed a cheat sheet to remind him to show empathy.

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I don't know how many fatalities there has to be before America admit the problem, my guess is many more.

When I worked in the States in 97 there was a fatal murder suicide of a lifeguard at the community pool by her steriod addled boyfriend with a legally owned gun in front of families and young children. It was awful, there was outcry, kids were traumatised and most people reacted by further arming themselves. One guy told me he had bought a higher powered gun as the one he had would just make a gunman more pissed off if he shot him with it. For most Americans they believe it is their right to bear arms and so they do....how anyone would begin to tackle the problem there is beyond me.
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How is that an argument against whether gun laws would help against mass shootings? :/ There was no such thing as an assault rifle back when the USA was founded btw
I'm not arguing , it does not matter if weapons have evolved people will not give up their weapons, my brother has family in Texas on his wife's side they have said they hide their weapons if any law was ever passed to limit them.

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