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Iceman · 16-10-2009, 03:53 PM

yeah well unluckily for me, im smack bang in the middle of Dublin City so it's probably the dearest part of Ireland....anywhere in the country is much cheaper...

InOne · 16-10-2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Iceman

yeah well unluckily for me, im smack bang in the middle of Dublin City so it's probably the dearest part of Ireland....anywhere in the country is much cheaper...

ohhhh right yeah that will be it lol Yeah when I went to Dublin it was ridiculous lol

Iceman · 16-10-2009, 04:07 PM

it still is, although there is no night life here now anymore....

best night was Arthur Guinness Day...never seen it so packed....

lily. · 16-10-2009, 04:09 PM

I reckon it's cuz of the chavs who hang about in towns these days and kick the shite out of people who are on their way home.

Decent folks don't want to go out and end up involved with these cretins.

InOne · 16-10-2009, 04:11 PM

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I reckon it's cuz of the chavs who hang about in towns these days and kick the shite out of people who are on their way home.

Decent folks don't want to go out and end up involved with these cretins.

Yep, it's pretty sad these days that people actually go out looking for fights. Make the older generations want to stay in. It is good that some pubs are a little out the centre though. But even thats bad, with not many houses by them, people don't usually bother as much.

arista · 16-10-2009, 04:18 PM

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It's like a big chain of trendy pubs that sell cheap booze and where everyone will go before a night out. Usually will be in the centre of town.

And better Meals.

Jessica. · 16-10-2009, 04:21 PM

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iot cost about €5 - €5.50 for a pint here so am not sure what that works out at in sterling???

£7.50 -£8.00 I would think

InOne · 16-10-2009, 04:21 PM

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And better Meals.

Ahhh yeah, was it Gordon Ramsey who tried to bring the pub lunch back?

arista · 16-10-2009, 04:22 PM

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the working class is dying out, thats who pubs have always been for

More people who would be working class are now becoming middle class thanks to increase of Uni places, whilst on the other side more people are ending up on benefits so can't afford it

I think the Grafters - the Working Class
can not afford Pubs that over charge.

InOne · 16-10-2009, 04:22 PM

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£7.50 -£8.00 I would think

Nooooo way, it's like 2.50-3.00

Jessica. · 16-10-2009, 04:26 PM

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Nooooo way, it's like 2.50-3.00

oh I didnt look properly €5.00 - €5.50 would be £3.20 - £3.70

InOne · 16-10-2009, 04:28 PM

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oh I didnt look properly €5.00 - €5.50 would be £3.20 - £3.70

Yes, seems a bit more like it lol

setanta · 16-10-2009, 06:43 PM

There's a lot of factors involved. Having worked in the pub trade myself for a number of years I'd say that the majority of the money that came in the pub was from the middle aged punters who could put a fair few pints into them and would create a good atmosphere on their own. Other thing about them was they would come in more then the one night a week and generally wouldn't be half cut from drinking at home before heading out.

There's too many kids coming out now who are wasted prior to entering pubs and really don't know how to handle drink in the first place. Regular punters tend to disappear when there's youngsters out acting like prats and thats become very very prevalent in the last decade or so.

Price hikes and taxation hasn't helped, along with how much more isolated we've become as people. The art of conversation is dying off as far as I can tell, with people more at ease staring at a computer screen or telly rather than chatting away with a crowd in a pub. Old school mentalities are disappearing.

InOne · 16-10-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by setanta

There's a lot of factors involved. Having worked in the pub trade myself for a number of years I'd say that the majority of the money that came in the pub was from the middle aged punters who could put a fair few pints into them and would create a good atmosphere on their own. Other thing about them was they would come in more then the one night a week and generally wouldn't be half cut from drinking at home before heading out.

There's too many kids coming out now who are wasted prior to entering pubs and really don't know how to handle drink in the first place. Regular punters tend to disappear when there's youngsters out acting like prats and thats become very very prevalent in the last decade or so.

Price hikes and taxation hasn't helped, along with how much more isolated we've become as people. The art of conversation is dying off as far as I can tell, with people more at ease staring at a computer screen or telly rather than chatting away with a crowd in a pub. Old school mentalities are disappearing.

Yep, i'd pretty much agree with that. It's a shame really.

Beastie · 16-10-2009, 06:53 PM

There are still some working mens pubs around which I have been to on the odd occassion but thats when theres been like a band on! A band with oldish men singing rock classics like journey, etc.. lol

My mum and dad go to the local pub a lot, I think most go to the local pub who are middle aged? in their 40's, 50's? but maybe more of these age gap people are drifting more towards restaurants to wine and dine? teenagers, people in their twenties, most of them will be at uni or having kids and the elderly, some will be at the pub but some may just want an "early night" or now too scared to go out because of the "chav culture"

King Gizzard · 16-10-2009, 06:55 PM

id rather have the smoke smell then the BO mixed with beer smell

and i dont even smoke

Vicky. · 16-10-2009, 06:57 PM

Yeah definitely.

My father in law (kind of, though we not married yet

) owns a pub, we live above it...but since the smoking ban, his profits were 2k a week down. And the past few months hes losing more. The bar he has was mostly like an old mans bar, they would sit with their pints and a cigar/tab all day, but obviously a few of them are a little too old to be standing at the door smoking, especially when it is cold. And people dont want to leave their drinks inside either, as you could easily be spiked. people are staying in more as drink from the shops is cheaper anyways, and you can smoke while drinking. So its the smoking ban plus the prices that are killing it really.

InOne · 16-10-2009, 06:57 PM

Where I am, there is a pub that is usually quite busy every night. It has a good mix and young and old and shows all the sporting events, even PPV. There is never any trouble, it's a shame this kind of thing is becoming a rarity.

setanta · 16-10-2009, 07:21 PM

I'm going to sound like a old man here but I do think that there's a lot of coked up and pissed young people out there now causing fights everynight. Ok, I've drunk myself silly on numerous occassions but I just go out to have a laugh, not to cause aggro. I don't know, I just feel that we're a different generation to that of our parents, where our sole occupation is gratifying ourselves and disregarding others. We're the me me generation lol.

As for the smoking ban yes, that's bound to effect the smaller country pubs where people who've grown accustomed all their lives to relaxing in their own way would feel very disgruntled at the goverments ability to infringe on what they perceive to be their indisputable rights, particularly when most wouldn't have the added comfort of outside heaters- it gets fecking cold in the country! I think they've added to the bigger pubs in the towns though, where you can actually meet new people more readily when you're out having a fag.

Jackie · 16-10-2009, 07:29 PM

Loads of our village pubs have closed down over the years.

InOne · 16-10-2009, 07:31 PM

Well 6 a day according to 'The Red Lion' doc. It's a shame cos it was where the old people socialized and felt safe. Now they don't go out as much and tend to be more lonely.