[Yayita]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Because i don't think Deana has been bullied. Ash and Shiv on the other hand are bullying Lauren. Without a doubt! Just my opinion.

OK then, your entitled to that.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Because i don't think Deana has been bullied. Ash and Shiv on the other hand are bullying Lauren. Without a doubt! Just my opinion.

How is it bullying? Most of the arguments between Shiveonne and Lauren have centred around ciggerates, and Lauren is just as mean as Ashleigh is behind each others back.

No bullying.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Yayita

OK then, your entitled to that.

Conor has already apologized for his comments. I doubt Ash and Shiv will ever say sorry to Lauren!

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Conor has already apologized for his comments. I doubt Ash and Shiv will ever say sorry to Lauren!

And I doubt she well ever say sorry for bitching about them as well

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

How is it bullying? Most of the arguments between Shiveonne and Lauren have centred around ciggerates, and Lauren is just as mean as Ashleigh is behind each others back.

No bullying.

They pick on her constantly. Bitching behind her back and slagging her off. Ash in particular has been trying to turn the housemates against her.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

And I doubt she well ever say sorry for bitching about them as well

I don't blame Lauren for that after the way they treated her!

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

They pick on her constantly. Bitching behind her back and slagging her off. Ash in particular has been trying to turn the housemates against her.

They have not done that for ages, Lauren is the one who wont let it go.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

They have not done that for ages, Lauren is the one who wont let it go.

I don't blame her. I'd want revenge if i was in her place.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I don't blame her. I'd want revenge if i was in her place.

But that makes her bad as them lot.

She is not all that nice, for example last week when Sara asked nicely for a ciggerate, she said no then started slagging them all off, it was not a big deal, all she had to say was "no I only have my own left sorry", but no she started bithcing as usually.

[Yayita]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Conor has already apologized for his comments. I doubt Ash and Shiv will ever say sorry to Lauren!

An apology is worth squat to me, actions speak louder than words. Look at Caroline, does the evilest things, then cries, apologizes and goes back and does them again even worst.

Would you be satisfied with an apology if someone was constantly talking bad about you and getting an entire group of people to hate you? I bet you an apology would be unacceptable.

Apologies Shmologies.. not worth a dang thing.

[Yayita]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

But that makes her bad as them lot.

She is not all that nice, for example last week when Sara asked nicely for a ciggerate, she said no then started slagging them all off, it was not a big deal, all she had to say was "no I only have my own left sorry", but no she started bithcing as usually.

Thats bcause she has finally reached the limit, they are constantly harrassing her for ciggies and she used to give them away willy nilly. They would then take them, smoke them and then trash talk her and continue bullying her.

I say GOOD ON HER for not giving them anything.

[InOne]

Lovely Lauren is the most kind and genuine in there You should take a look at some of the other HM's before you start calling people two faced.

[dathadiguy]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Conor has already apologized for his comments. I doubt Ash and Shiv will ever say sorry to Lauren!

Has he apologised to her though? Until now I actually still don't think she what he said about her.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by dathadiguy

Has he apologised to her though? Until now I actually still don't think she what he said about her.

Well, as long as he knows he did wrong. He went way over the top and he knows it.

[fitz2k2]

I never like lauren something always seem fishy about her

[dathadiguy]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Well, as long as he knows he did wrong. He went way over the top and he knows it.

I'll be sure to use that one in court the next time I'm in for threatening physical & sexual abuse.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by dathadiguy

I'll be sure to use that one in court the next time I'm in for threatening physical & sexual abuse.

Conor was just very angry. I don't think he meant it.

[optimisticcynic]

There many distinctions between self-preservation/indecisiveness/ambivalence/being two-faced. Lauren's actions do not seem to be steeped in malice but reflect a desire to be accepted and liked and avoid confrontation. Hence she will interact with those she feels are close and those by whom she is threatened, giving little away to isolate herself, and her discussion of how she really feels isn't really bitching. You may hate half the people you work with but there is no benefit from shouting this from the rooftops on a daily basis. You simply get on as best you can, and whinge to your nearest and dearest when you get home. The inability to put these boundaries in place with constant argument as a result (I think this is the "being real" that everyone seems to aspire to), is actually the pathological behaviour and gets people nowhere in the real world.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Of course she's fake. Like pretending to be attracted to adam there's nobody else for her to do this with

[WozMan]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

There many distinctions between self-preservation/indecisiveness/ambivalence/being two-faced. Lauren's actions do not seem to be steeped in malice but reflect a desire to be accepted and liked and avoid confrontation. Hence she will interact with those she feels are close and those by whom she is threatened, giving little away to isolate herself, and her discussion of how she really feels isn't really bitching. You may hate half the people you work with but there is no benefit from shouting this from the rooftops on a daily basis. You simply get on as best you can, and whinge to your nearest and dearest when you get home. The inability to put these boundaries in place with constant argument as a result (I think this is the "being real" that everyone seems to aspire to), is actually the pathological behaviour and gets people nowhere in the real world.

SPOT ON OPTIMISTIC!! Her bahaviour is completely normal and genuine for her personality and the circumstances she has undergone in the house. If DTM finds every person who has ever complained about a person without directly confronting them on it he must hate an AWFUL lot of people. That's just not healthy

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Of course she's fake. Like pretending to be attracted to adam there's nobody else for her to do this with

You just countered your own argument there. She is doing what any healthy single female would do. She is flirting with some one whom she feels comfortable with who is a strong, confidant, well-adjusted man. Poor girl needs to have some fun with the constant tension of being stuck with people who have been nasty with her from the first week.

Originally Posted by InOne

Lovely Lauren is the most kind and genuine in there You should take a look at some of the other HM's before you start calling people two faced.

SOOO true. The latest Caroline hate campaign against Luke A is a great example. She is ACTIVELY seeking to turn people's opinions against Luke A. She is using every piece of information she can and applying massive amounts of effort and imagination to DEMONISE the lad. Even after Ashleigh disagrees with Caz and says Luke A is a nice person she insists 'NO! He ISN'T! He said X and Y...'

Lauren merely vents about people who are stressing her out. She tried her ABSOLUTE BEST to work on her relationship with Ashleigh. Ashleigh however still hates her guts for no reason Lauren can figure out and thus Lauren is fed up with her constant sniping and ingratitude. And as for Ashleigh 'letting it go' HA!! has she my furry green butt!! The editors can only fit so much bitching into one hour's programming and the Shevonnalogues have been the flava of da week. Ashleigh's hatred for Lauren has been going on since week one and has not stopped. Any convo where Lauren is mentioned she is still very bitchy about her and she has Nommed poor Lauren EVERY SINGLE WEEK. Oh yes, she so obviously 'letting it go!' HHAAAA!!!!

[rusticgal]

I love Lauren. Lauren knows they all dislike her other than Adam and Luke A.... SHE IS PLAYING THEM AT THEIR OWN GAME.... its soooooo funny.

Lauren to WIN...

[bbfan1991]

She is fake. ALL the housemates are to some extent just in playing the game because the BB house is a false environment and it shows your good/bad sides.

I just find her very irritating and too needy.

[august]

hello
I love Lauren stupid laugh gruff voice thro' smoking
but downright sexy and unaware of it earthy ..without realising it only my opinion
off now to watch ..Borgen .thanks folks for your time

[BBUKAUSFAN]

and there we go the housemates are seeing how sneaky and two faced she see on tonights ep. Lets hope they catch her out and let her fall.

[cell]

Lauren is just desperate to be liked by everyone. She even says herself women don't like her and she desperately wanted to get female friends from the experience.
She is willing to adapt herself to any situation to make herself likable to the current person she is socializing with.
Unfortunately in the BB house the only think you can talk about is other people and it is worst that the house is divided so people on opposite "sides" want to bitch about the others. Wanting to be liked Lauren ends up in the center and quickly divulges information probably without malicious intent but it is now getting back around.
I won't be surprised if Deana's planted information makes it's way back round from Lauren, but I won't feel Lauren is particularly "false" or " 2 faced" for leaking information she just has a character flaw that it not necessarily detrimental on the outside world when you have separate social circles but it is essentially kiss of death in the BB house.