Originally Posted by Jack_

As I said in my thread last night I don't think he's this thug that deserves the death penalty, what he did was unacceptable and very disturbing but I think he has a lot of deep rooted psychological problems which need sorting. Deep down he seems like a nice guy or at least that he has the potential to be, when he wasn't around Hazel and wasn't isolating himself from the group and crying to himself he seemed alright to me.

I don't believe people can change themselves that much. There are influences you can remove that will alter behaviour, like drugs or alcohol for example, but that aggressive streak towards a woman will remain there. I don't doubt he's done something similar before, and I seriously doubt he'll never do the same thing again.

I agree that he seemed like a decent guy, but we didn't get to see his whole make up. I'm not saying he should receive s**t for the rest of his life because of it, but it was wholly unacceptable behaviour that can't be skipped over.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Barker

Agreed. He definitely did wrong to Hazel, but I forgive him too and I just feel sorry for him for being played by Hazel like that over the last week

You feel sorry that he was played??? He had a g/f he should have said No Hazel I have a g/f, that would have been all it would have taken for her to stop. The onus was on him to put a stop to the flirting as he was the one in the relationship

[reece(:]

He acted strange the whole time IMO, god knows what he's like on the outside.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Pronshi

Don't know what the bigger crime has being committed.
Daley physically assaulting Hazel, or the horrible lack of correct spelling and grammar.

You do know you are not supposed to start a sentence with don't

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He was acting like a controlling moron long before he had a drink

very true, if he wanted to go to bed and sleep that badly he would have!,at any time he could of told hazel he just wanted to get some sleep,but instead he was saying bitches be talking, counting down down like a parent would do after giving their child a warning to do as they are told.
he got up to tell hazel lies about bb,
he was in a mood that she did not come to bed when he wanted!
total control freak, i would love to hear what his ex has to say about him.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

I forgive those those priests who habitually raped children, because they seem like nice guys and they're Christians.

way, way, way overe the top...come back this side jesus.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

very true, if he wanted to go to bed and sleep that badly he would have!,at any time he could of told hazel he just wanted to get some sleep,but instead he was saying bitches be talking, counting down down like a parent would do after giving their child a warning to do as they are told.
he got up to tell hazel lies about bb,
he was in a mood that she did not come to bed when he wanted!
total control freak, i would love to hear what his ex has to say about him.

Yep spot on. But of course BB never showed all that or mentioned it in his interview

[Kazanne]

Most people change when they have a drink,I myself have annoyed the OH when I have been a bit tipsy,none of us are perfect,Daley did wrong,he admitted it,lets hope he learns from it,the posts here about him being a wife beater etc are a bit ott,imo.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yep spot on. But of course BB never showed all that or mentioned it in his interview

it stinks!, i wonder how much control emma had on what was asked,
emma should be ashamed the way she sided with daley,you dont have to like hazel to know when a man putts his hands around a womans throat and threaten's them there can never be any defence.

[Jemal]

He faced the consequences now please, I beg you in gods name - move on.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You feel sorry that he was played??? He had a g/f he should have said No Hazel I have a g/f, that would have been all it would have taken for her to stop. The onus was on him to put a stop to the flirting as he was the one in the relationship

Okay I see your point but in Daley's defence he did ask Hazel to stop countless times. When she say "hug?" he would persistently say "go away" and "no" but she wouldn't listen. See Niamh, what I'm trying to say is that yes what he did was obviously wrong and he deserved to be removed for it. However, I feel sorry for him because none of this would've happened if Hazel hadn't consistently flirted with him in the first place, fully knowing that he had a girlfriend on the outside. He would've done much better sticking with the nice boys Callum and Sam.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Most people change when they have a drink,I myself have annoyed the OH when I have been a bit tipsy,none of us are perfect,Daley did wrong,he admitted it,lets hope he learns from it,the posts here about him being a wife beater etc are a bit ott,imo.

hello
he was telling hazel, do you remember when i told that when i go mad its really scary!,this tells me he as done it before

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Hadouken

He faced the consequences now please, I beg you in gods name - move on.

why?, we could say move on from this thread!

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Barker

Okay I see your point but in Daley's defence he did ask Hazel to stop countless times. When she say "hug?" he would persistently say "go away" and "no" but she wouldn't listen. See Niamh, what I'm trying to say is that yes what he did was obviously wrong and he deserved to be removed for it. However, I feel sorry for him because none of this would've happened if Hazel hadn't consistently flirted with him in the first place, fully knowing that he had a girlfriend on the outside. He would've done much better sticking with the nice boys Callum and Sam.

if my aunt had nuts she would be my uncle!

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by parmnion

No, but I bet he learns from this and stays away from drink himself, cut him some slack, he's a nice lad.

The thing is, he must know what he's like when he gets drunk so why does he get drunk?. Irresponsible.

[Marc]

I don't forgive him.

[Jemal]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

why?, we could say move on from this thread!

Because hes already flipping suffered consequences. If he was still on the house then i would understand why people would keep making threads. But hes out of the house. Hes been kicked out of the best experience arguably in his life.... What else do people want? He apologised, what else can he do? If you feel that serious about the situation do your worse and call the police on him then since it bothers you and other people so much

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Barker

Okay I see your point but in Daley's defence he did ask Hazel to stop countless times. When she say "hug?" he would persistently say "go away" and "no" but she wouldn't listen. See Niamh, what I'm trying to say is that yes what he did was obviously wrong and he deserved to be removed for it. However, I feel sorry for him because none of this would've happened if Hazel hadn't consistently flirted with him in the first place, fully knowing that he had a girlfriend on the outside. He would've done much better sticking with the nice boys Callum and Sam.

He said no but he said no, you're arousing me, that is encouragement and not a no because I'm not interested. Had he said No Hazel i have a g/f, she would have stopped, putting any blame on her for his behaviour is wrong. Are we saying that men just can't be held accountable if there's an attractive girl around? What? He's a big boy and he was not manipulated, he went from having a g/f to not having a g/f cos he wanted Hazel to think he didn't have one.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Hadouken

He faced the consequences now please, I beg you in gods name - move on.

This is the biggest thing to happen in BB yet this year and this is a BB forum, if you've finished talking about it, that's your prerogative but don't tell other people on a BB forum when they should stop talking about a major story.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I have watched him for 4 weeks when he has been sober and i didn't see anything that concerned me.

Oh yes, perfectly nice chap.

He cheats on his girlfriend and ignores the fact that he has kids watching his actions on tv. Has control and alcohol issues. Underlining issues with women and a seriously dangerous violent streak that needs to be kept under wraps. And when confronted with said issues he either looses his temper, or blames his past, or his environment.

What a gem of a man.

[CaudleHalbard]

It's certainly been a ratings winner! Mr Desmond will be very pleased!

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Hadouken

Because hes already flipping suffered consequences. If he was still on the house then i would understand why people would keep making threads. But hes out of the house. Hes been kicked out of the best experience arguably in his life.... What else do people want? He apologised, what else can he do? If you feel that serious about the situation do your worse and call the police on him then since it bothers you and other people so much

he may well have the police knocking a his door after all it was assault!
daley only has him self to blame, it was not hazels actions but his reaction!
plus he as had a good effing pay check to tell his dribble!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

hello
he was telling hazel, do you remember when i told that when i go mad its really scary!,this tells me he as done it before

But I've said that myself sheriff"you wouldn't like me when I'm angry" I've no doubts it happens a lot more than we think,he needs anger management,what he did was totally wrong,BUT something doesn't sit right with all this,why on earth would anyone go back in the same room as him,let alone sleep with him,they are in the BB house not prison,I just think it's all so weird.

[Josy]

I'm so glad we have yet another thread to discuss this in, I was actually just thinking the tons we already have wasn't enough.

[Jemal]

Originally Posted by Josy

I'm so glad we have yet another thread to discuss this in, I was actually just thinking the tons we already have wasn't enough.

lol this.