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BB14 Channel 5's Big Brother: Secrets and Lies (aka Big Brother 14) started June 13th 2013 and was won by Sam Evans. Discuss the series and housemates here. |
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24-07-2013, 11:50 AM | #26 | |||
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I take your point about the type of relationship but I'm just talking more about the Home wrecking label
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24-07-2013, 11:51 AM | #27 | |||
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24-07-2013, 11:52 AM | #28 | ||
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Cheating is ok, as long as you're both a bit dopey, and like blinking.
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24-07-2013, 11:52 AM | #29 | ||
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I dont think there would have been as much negativity surrounding it had they not been so..OTT in their lust tbh.
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24-07-2013, 11:53 AM | #30 | |||
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24-07-2013, 11:54 AM | #31 | |||
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So in that respect they are identical... Yes hazel was already unpopular for her perceived role initially but the real injustice was when this unpopularity was highlighted following daleys expulsion and used as an excuse for the assault.
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24-07-2013, 11:56 AM | #32 | ||
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BTW, I feel the need to point out that I havent seen any of BB2 and am basing my opinions on what others say. Helen and Paul was a genuine falling for each other thing..not just about lust, and also apparently Paul continually said he wanted nothing to happen until she spoke to her partner?
Thinking aboutit now though, the fact that I havent watched it myself probably means I shouldnt comment on it tbh
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24-07-2013, 11:56 AM | #33 | |||
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24-07-2013, 11:59 AM | #34 | |||
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Helen and Paul got a lot of criticism at the time (online and in the media) - Paul in particular, much more so than Helen. He was portrayed as a 'player'. Helen was seen as quite naive.
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24-07-2013, 11:59 AM | #35 | |||
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Having said that though I think it's wrong for to cheat in any way or get with someone that has a partner, so I'm not condoning that in anyway, just don't think these 2 relationships are the best one to compare.
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24-07-2013, 12:00 PM | #36 | |||
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Again the basic concept is the same, a man and woman and a decision to be made, it makes no difference what differences there are in the type of relationship they triggered... the fact is there was one.
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24-07-2013, 12:02 PM | #37 | |||
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That's really not how I remembered it at all, although granted I wouldn't have been reading up about it online at all at the stage. I thought it was all very romanticized
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24-07-2013, 12:02 PM | #38 | |||
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24-07-2013, 12:03 PM | #39 | |||
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The relationships themselves aren't similar for sure, it's just the only other BB relationship I could think of where the man was the "other woman"
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24-07-2013, 12:03 PM | #40 | |||
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24-07-2013, 12:07 PM | #41 | |||
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So it seems to me that as that was reversed in dazels case, that has coloured the reaction of some?
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24-07-2013, 12:09 PM | #42 | |||
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I have read them josy, I just don't agree.
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24-07-2013, 12:13 PM | #43 | |||
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Don't agree with this. Paul and Helen were all over each other and it was clear - Big G permitting - that the relationship was gonna continue outside. Paul was indeed a home wrecker but that's OK apparently cuz they werent hot and heavy on TV. I don't understand how you come to that conclusion.
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24-07-2013, 12:20 PM | #44 | |||
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I think Naimh makes a great comparison and its interesting that so many want to try and say its different when fundamentally it isn't. There is not much nuance between the two relationships if you look at it from an purely objective point of view.
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24-07-2013, 12:31 PM | #45 | |||
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And also there was live coverage even though it wasn't 24/7 I'm sure we saw a lot more then than we do now but that could be wrong it was so long ago I can't really remember but from what I watched Helen acted nothing at all like Hazel. |
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24-07-2013, 12:33 PM | #46 | |||
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24-07-2013, 12:34 PM | #47 | |||
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Because Helen was lovely and Welsh so it's okay
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24-07-2013, 12:34 PM | #48 | |||
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Sad but true... although it's only a section of people who have the nineteen-fifties mindset. Hard to believe in 2013. I find it the saddest when it's women justifying the stereotype.
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24-07-2013, 12:35 PM | #49 | |||
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Helen was stupid and likable = people liked her no matter what
Hazel is unlikable and manipulative = people don't like her it is as simple as that
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24-07-2013, 12:35 PM | #50 | |||
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In all honesty though I didn't watch enough BB2 to really be able to judge but I guess because Helen was much more likeable and naive as a girl than Hazel is, she didn't get as much slack for it? And Same with Paul versus Daley.
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