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GiRTh · 02-10-2013, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by wannashag

Well if you want him to maintain, then by playing people like Ferdinand, Giggs, Young, Valencia ect ect, he is maintaining the team that Fergie had, but are those players playing to their potential? obviously not which is down to their own attitude.

Give the guy time to put his own philosophy's on that team and to see which of the current team he want's to play for him and which one's he needs to replace, he can only find that out by putting them on the pitch to see if they can give what he want.

It's a transitional period for them after having the same manager for the past 27 years, things just may take a little time to click, be patient and get behind your team would be my advice.

I'm not a Man U fan so they are not my team.

In not rotating the squad and openly questioning the quality of the players he is failing to maintain anything. There is nothing to be built at Man U. His squad is considerably better than any squad he ever had at Everton but his lack of experience and his own misguided philosophies are costing a team whose supporters do not have a great deal of patience. His start has been disastrous so far and he's gonna have to learn quickly to get the season back on track.

Yes, he has been shown to be out of his depth so far as manager and I dont doubt any one of a number of other managers would have done better than him so far.

Alf · 02-10-2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

In not rotating the squad and openly questioning the quality of the players he is failing to maintain anything.

Well you've just come up with the solution to all the problems, rotating the squad and not question the accountability of the players, is the pathway to success.

I might apply if it's that easy, Should Moyes gets sacked

Brother Leon · 02-10-2013, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Legend killer

Can you please stop Full Stop

Anyone who even tried to suggest Young was a good player or suggested Giggs and ****ing Scholes were at that stage better centre mids then Pogba should really not be allowed to post on a football forum

I blame this fully on Young. Funny how diabolical the standard of play has been since Ashley graced Carrington with his ****ess appears to be rubbing of on the team like a common cold

And like any virus Ashley should be dealt with as soon as possible in this case send him to the local disabled football league

Ps comparing a warrior like Darren to a streak of piss like Ashley tops all your other stupid notions regarding football

Then you are more of a fool than I already thought. Well done brah x

Legend killer · 03-10-2013, 10:47 AM

BRA

BRA

BRA

Ed is a donkey but I would not fancy convincing the likes if Fab ,Thiago and co to come and lay the ball of to bums like Tony and Ashley week in week out

All joking aside as I have said many times 90% of the blame lies on Fergie I am afraid THE STATE he let this team get into in an absolute joke. If you fancy a laugh go look at our 08 team and then compare in to the team we have now

The "THERE IS NO VALUE IN THE MARKET" ATTITUDE has set us back 5 years and our fans better realise this fact and stop bitching at a manager who has been here no longer then 3 months

Brother Leon · 03-10-2013, 10:56 AM

Every time LK posts

Legend killer · 03-10-2013, 11:14 AM

And not a SINGLE point was argued that day

PS: How are you seeing my posts when you put me on ignore???????

Ryan57 · 03-10-2013, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wannashag

It's not down to the manager if the two players you mentioned (Valencia and Young) are in your expert opinion, not good enough (he didn't sign those players, he inherited them), Moyes doesn't make a pass for them, Moyes doesn't make a tackle for them, Moyes doesn't do their running for them, they do it themselves. their professional players on huge over the top wages, and if their not playing to their ability, then it say's to me that their attitude towards their work is not 100%, and they need to be shown the door and replaced by players that will show the right attitude.

First paragraph makes no sense. In this case why has any manager even been sacked if it's down to the players?

Valencia and Young are probably giving 100%. The issue is they're 'effin wank.

You mention Nani, a player who no doubt as bundles of talent, so why doesn't he show it week in week out, he's had plenty of chances in the team, but has never shown any consistency, that's an attitude problem right there, primadonna comes to mind, which goes against the philosophy of the hard working class values of Moyes.

I'm not a huge Nani fan. However, he's way ahead of the tripe Moyes chose to play before him. He needs to be given a run. Even though nobody really shone against West Brom, he was more dangerous than Valencia and Young combined in the league this season.

And the other was Kagawa, maybe Moyes doesn't see him as part of what he want's to build, maybe he thinks he's not good enough, he's hardly set the Premier League on fire as he?

If Moyes doesn't think Kagawa is good enough, yet seemingly believes Valencia is, then I lose any hope whatsoever.

You'd have to be very fickle about football to want rid of a manager two months into his job.

I didn't say I wanted him to be sacked.

If you only blame the manager and not the players when things go wrong, then i'd expect you to only praise the manager and not the players when things go right.

I haven't blamed just the manager. I said in a post you quoted 'it's a combination of both'...however the manager deserves flack when persisting with s-hit.

Responses in bold.

GiRTh · 21-10-2013, 08:29 PM

Bump.

Locke. · 21-10-2013, 08:31 PM

He is the perfect man for the job

GiRTh · 21-10-2013, 08:33 PM

Its now starting to show that Moyes has very set ideas on the first team. It looks like theres gonna be a huge clear out either January or next summer so United fans dont even think you're gonna win anything this year. And, if I were you I'd be praying that he doesnt turn you into Everton but with slightly better players.

21-10-2013, 08:33 PM

If anything, United are out of their depth. He's a great manager.

GiRTh · 21-10-2013, 08:35 PM

He'll sign Shamus Coleman and Jagielka in the January window.

Drew. · 21-10-2013, 08:36 PM

Osman will be replacing Kagawa in January

GiRTh · 21-10-2013, 08:42 PM

All the people in this thread who say give him time.

Do you seriously think time is the thing thats gonna stop this man from success. Just hope the style of football stays good cus from what I've seen if I were a United fan I'd be very worried.

Brother Leon · 21-10-2013, 09:02 PM

8 games......

8 games......

8 games......

If it is Xmas time and we still look this then I will worry. At least he is starting to grasp that Adnan and Nani are our best wingers. Just needs to give Kagawa and Hernandez more game time now.

21-10-2013, 09:17 PM

Youtube video

This has to be the worst song in football.

I managed to find one with lyrics, so LK can sing along.

MTVN · 21-10-2013, 09:20 PM

Wondered what the tune to that was, it's worse than anything I could have imagined

Brother Leon · 21-10-2013, 09:21 PM

It's a great chant and catchy as **** with alot of people getting on it.

Drew. · 21-10-2013, 09:22 PM

ah yes, Leons sig

King Gizzard · 21-10-2013, 09:34 PM

cheesy as ****

Stu · 21-10-2013, 09:45 PM

Yeah it's really awful.

Brother Leon · 21-10-2013, 10:03 PM

Song being belted our for 10mins straight when Sunderland scored>>>

joeysteele · 21-10-2013, 10:13 PM

I think he will do okay, a good run is all that is needed for a few games which can turn all around again.
Although I expected them to beat Southampton for instance on Saturday,it didn't surprise me that it was a draw,Southampton are a bit of a bogey team as to Man Utd.