[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I think the prank was putting Hilary Clinton up as a viable opposition to Trump.Trump would never have got in office against an even half decent opponent.

Yeah, that's true too

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I think the prank was putting Hilary Clinton up as a viable opposition to Trump.Trump would never have got in office against an even half decent opponent.

I'll always reject this thought process and any threads of logic that's amongst the lines of 'Well Hillary wasn't much better than Trump!'

She's a politician, one with actual experience on the global stage and one that knows how to play the game rather than floundering in a spiral of childlike anger like Trump. Electing Trump was like being on a plane and saying 'You know what? We don't need that qualified pilot to fly this plane, put this toddler in the pilot's seat instead!'

Trump would have probably won against most candidates, he had outside help and his victory was assured by the ignorance of the voting public. Even someone like Bernie Sanders would have struggled to win because hate and intolerence has more sway with people than love and acceptance and that's why Trump won.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

because hate and intolerence has more sway with people than love and acceptance and that's why Trump won.

This is deep! And genuinely, probably true.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'll always reject this thought process and any threads of logic that's amongst the lines of 'Well Hillary wasn't much better than Trump!'

She's a politician, one with actual experience on the global stage and one that knows how to play the game rather than floundering in a spiral of childlike anger like Trump. Electing Trump was like being on a plane and saying 'You know what? We don't need that qualified pilot to fly this plane, put this toddler in the pilot's seat instead!'

Trump would have probably won against most candidates, he had outside help and his victory was assured by the ignorance of the voting public. Even someone like Bernie Sanders would have struggled to win because hate and intolerence has more sway with people than love and acceptance and that's why Trump won.

What you perceive as hate and intolerance is more likely dissenfranchisement from the rust belt states who are sick to the back teeth of the system that's been dragging them down and ruining their towns and putting them into poverty by closing their industries down.
Trump however bad he is was seen as the anti politician and seems to be making good on his promises.
On top Hilary being a disgraceful only other option.Bernie would've had a better chance than Hillary.
Not to mention Hillary would more than likely be trying to impose her no-fly zone over Syria now after this latest chemical attack putting the world in an extremely dangerous position.Direct conflict with Russia.
Unfortunately it's too late to do anything about Assad now because the Obama administration did'nt have the resolve to make a stand when the opportunity was there.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

What you perceive as hate and intolerance is more likely disenfranchisement from the rust belt states who are sick to the back teeth of the system that's been dragging them down and ruining their towns and putting them into poverty by closing their industries down.
Trump however bad he is was seen as the anti politician and seems to be making good on his promises.
On top Hilary being a disgraceful only other option.Bernie would've had a better chance than Hillary.
Not to mention Hillary would more than likely be trying to impose her no-fly zone over Syria now after this latest chemical attack putting the world in an extremely dangerous position.Direct conflict with Russia.
Unfortunately it's too late to do anything about Assad now because the Obama administration did'nt have the resolve to make a stand when the opportunity was there.

In this case disenfranchisement is just another word for ignorance. Many warnings about Trump's presidency have already come to pass but people ignored that because he was playing to their bigotry.

Let's be real here, Hillary would never have lived up to that promise, she would have kept the boat on the same course that Obama had set because that course was safe. She was all hot air but she was hot air that wouldn't have shook the boat. It's better to have someone like that than to glorify Trump for following up on his promises when he has sown discord through the muslim ban, tried to **** over the entire public when it comes to medical care and is the process of attacking Women's Rights through the act of defunding Planned Parenthood.

[DemolitionRed]

Took me a bit to find this post

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/factch...cid=spartanntp
fact check I like this line

In more than a dozen messages on Twitter in 2013 and 2014, Mr. Trump repeated his advice, emphatically stating that “Syria is NOT our problem,” appealing directly to Mr. Obama to “not attack Syria” as “there is no upside and tremendous downside” and telling him to “stay out of Syria.”

[Kizzy]

He's been forced to shut his trap about N korea so he's going personal on someone he feels safe won't nuke him.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

In this case disenfranchisement is just another word for ignorance. Many warnings about Trump's presidency have already come to pass but people ignored that because he was playing to their bigotry.

Let's be real here, Hillary would never have lived up to that promise, she would have kept the boat on the same course that Obama had set because that course was safe. She was all hot air but she was hot air that wouldn't have shook the boat. It's better to have someone like that than to glorify Trump for following up on his promises when he has sown discord through the muslim ban, tried to **** over the entire public when it comes to medical care and is the process of attacking Women's Rights through the act of defunding Planned Parenthood.

None of that addresses what should have been done in syria before and now....She supplied ISIS directly with weapons and tanks and she then tried to delete all the evidence of this. Her role was a disaster. All we seem to want is for trump to say nasty things about putin to the press...to what end? We need a new strategy , the last one has been a disaster

[jaxie]

The news was saying Trump will take military action.