[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

'We'
plural pronoun, possessive our or ours, objective us.

(used to denote oneself and another or others)

used to denote oneself and another or others

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

You certainly implied it. It would be rather odd to criticise someone for something you felt could apply to you.

It would be presumptuous to presume anything is going to be believed or taken as fact in a forum discussion, especially by the opposing side. That goes both ways.

The question is, are my replies being none PC?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Good grief… It feel like my words are continually stifled on here because of political correctness. Sometimes, even when I’ve tried to limit my words so as not to offend, I still find certain people are outraged by what I’ve said. I’m less vocal and literal here than other discussion groups for fear of offending some sensitive soul.

That turning tide. People against open borders have been made to feel that way many times.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

It never ceases to amaze me how you always seem to see your response as 'ripping it to shreds'. If you say so.

I refuted your silly little claim without having to resort to your tactics of whining about being called a bigot,

That's what you do when someone accuses you of something, you don't whine about the word and try to turn it into something that can't be said because it hurts your feelings. Refute it or accept it, there are no other options.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

That turning tide. People against open borders have been made to feel that way many times.

People who don't like open borders have every right to debate their reasons but facts are nice because they give us something honest to work with and talk about.

[Toy Soldier]

It's quite amusing for me, really. I'm not actually a huge fan of "political correctness" or, rather, the legal implementation of such. I am all for balls-out free speech. For everyone. That means that you can say whatever you want without fear of the authorities or persecution or any official sanction. It also means that everyone else has free reign to say whatever they want back and tear you the **** down and there's not a damned thing you can do or say about it. If that's what we mean by PC coming to an end then I'm all for it . Bring it on. We could test it out on this forum. Remove all of the rules, make it no holds barred. That's what makes it amusing --- I know exactly which members would head for the hills first .

Because what these people ACTUALLY want - and this is where it gets really ironic - is somewhere that they can share their views WITHOUT being called out on them. Without being "called oh-so-mean names" like bigot, narrow-minded, nasty little racist, etc. What they want is a safe space. And that cracks me up.

[the truth]

the left abused political correctness, they perverted it and destroyed its true meaning just to make political gain themselves. absolutely disgusting. 20,000 kids molested in rotherham thanks to a perverted form of political correctness and all labours fault

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I refuted your silly little claim without having to resort to your tactics of whining about being called a bigot,

That's what you do when someone accuses you of something, you don't whine about the word and try to turn it into something that can't be said because it hurts your feelings. Refute it or accept it, there are no other options.

wrong, its slander supported by the left which people should sue over. just as those falsely accused by money grabbers should counter sue and take the false accusers to hell

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's quite amusing for me, really. I'm not actually a huge fan of "political correctness" or, rather, the legal implementation of such. I am all for balls-out free speech. For everyone. That means that you can say whatever you want without fear of the authorities or persecution or any official sanction. It also means that everyone else has free reign to say whatever they want back and tear you the **** down and there's not a damned thing you can do or say about it. If that's what we mean by PC coming to an end then I'm all for it . Bring it on. We could test it out on this forum. Remove all of the rules, make it no holds barred. That's what makes it amusing --- I know exactly which members would head for the hills first .

Because what these people ACTUALLY want - and this is where it gets really ironic - is somewhere that they can share their views WITHOUT being called out on them. Without being "called oh-so-mean names" like bigot, narrow-minded, nasty little racist, etc. What they want is a safe space. And that cracks me up.

You think you know, but it's no coincidence that you clearly imply that those that would run are those on the opposite side of the fence to you.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

You think you know, but it's no coincidence that you clearly imply that those that would run are those on the opposite side of the fence to you.

I'm not implying it I'm outright stating it. You complain about the things that are said to you already, seemingly completely unaware that you are benefitting - massively - from people holding back due to political correctness.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'm not implying it I'm outright stating it. You complain about the things that are said to you already, seemingly completely unaware that you are benefitting - massively - from people holding back due to political correctness.

I don't complain out of sensitivity I complain on principle. Many are probably holding back to some degree due to forum rules, but if someone pushes the boundaries it is far more likely that those expressing opinions considered 'right wing' will be infracted. Lessons learned. Sometimes the feeling of not giving some people the satisfaction prevails.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I refuted your silly little claim without having to resort to your tactics of whining about being called a bigot,

That's what you do when someone accuses you of something, you don't whine about the word and try to turn it into something that can't be said because it hurts your feelings. Refute it or accept it, there are no other options.

Obviously your idea and my idea of proof don't agree. In my book you proved nothing. It's all about context.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

What makes Brillos argument weak

On this particular topic?
Shes implied that she is against forum members calling others names such as racists or bigots, despite her labelling many members as a sexist in the past
She wants freedom of speech but wants to stop others from calling right wing people mean names
She wants PC culture to come to an end despite endlessly arguing against: people protesting against governments, people namecalling in general, and posts that she believes to be anti-feminist

Her argument is so weak, in so many different ways. She claims to be fighting against PC whilst having many PC traits, and she is fighting for freedom of speech whilst suggesting that others should not have the same privilege.
And this mindset is very similar to the woman in the video. Its senseless, contradictory, and hypocritical.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

On this particular topic?
Shes implied that she is against forum members calling others names such as racists or bigots, despite her labelling many members as a sexist in the past
She wants freedom of speech but wants to stop others from calling right wing people mean names
She wants PC culture to come to an end despite endlessly arguing against: people protesting against governments, people namecalling in general, and posts that she believes to be anti-feminist

Her argument is so weak, in so many different ways. She claims to be fighting against PC whilst having many PC traits, and she is fighting for freedom of speech whilst suggesting that others should not have the same privilege.
And this mindset is very similar to the woman in the video. Its senseless, contradictory, and hypocritical.

That is twisted beyond belief. If certain people are going to try to label me because they don't like my opinions they can't then expect me to hold back when I don't like theirs. I never start it.

It isn't me that wants it all their way. You really don't seem to know half of what's occured so until you do it's probably best you refrain from giving your not so well informed opinion.

[the truth]

labour made the basic most obvious mistake of any political party, they tried to heavily legislate for everything, including everyday social behaviour, conversations and interactions

You simply cannot do that, every phrase every conversation are all in different contexts and situations. to think cops are meant to police everyday conversations is absurd. some people arent necessarily being bigotted , therer can be a million different explanations....they could be just dumb or stupid or poorly educated, they may be insane, they could be high on cocaine, they could be mentally ill, they could be reacting to being punched etc etc and yes in some cases they may be mean as a snake bigots. Its often a lot easier for the public and organizations deal with these everyday situations themselves. instead of a police officer arresting someone for saying something ignorant say in a school or college, let the head master/mistress or the principals take care of it, if a person at work is bullying let the bosses take care of it, if a comedian is being obnoxious dont buy a ticket boycott the show..etc etc

but over legislating always means innocent people get caught in the web

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

That is twisted beyond belief. If certain people are going to try to label me because they don't like my opinions they can't then expect me to hold back when I don't like theirs. I never start it.

It isn't me that wants it all their way. You really don't seem to know half of what's occured so until you do it's probably best you refrain from giving your not so well informed opinion.

Kinda missed the point again though didnt you.

You are not fighting for freedom of speech regardless of how much you think you are, as you are actively trying to surpress others' speech

You are not against Political correctness, because you are incredibky PC on some topics.

You want PC when it suits you, you want freedom of speech when it suits you, as does the woman in this video. Its senseless, contradictory, and hypocritical.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Withano

Kinda missed the point again though didnt you.

You are not fighting for freedom of speech regardless of how much you think you are, as you are actively trying to surpress others' speech

You are not against Political correctness, because you are incredibky PC on some topics.

You want PC when it suits you, you want freedom of speech when it suits you, as does the woman in this video. Its senseless, contradictory, and hypocritical.

No hes not youre misrepresenting him yet again

[Withano]

Originally Posted by the truth

No hes not youre misrepresenting him yet again

Shes not even a bloke, what were you saying about misrepresentation?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

Kinda missed the point again though didnt you.

You are not fighting for freedom of speech regardless of how much you think you are, as you are actively trying to surpress others' speech

You are not against Political correctness, because you are incredibky PC on some topics.

You want PC when it suits you, you want freedom of speech when it suits you, as does the woman in this video. Its senseless, contradictory, and hypocritical.

Honestly I can't be bothered as I don't think you know what you're talking about. Either that or you have been reading up on spin.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Honestly I can't be bothered as I don't think you know what you're talking about. Either that or you have been reading up on spin.

You are completely PC when it comes to feminist issues for example. You are completely against freedom of speech when it comes to the left calling the right names for example

Yet you come in to the thread claiming PC is bad and freedom of speech is good

Your argument does not make sense. You have fought for both sides of both topics and claimed that you only feel one way. You don't feel consistently one way, you're very in the middle like most people.

I have no idea if you're just being stubborn or if you genuinely dont understand how contradictory youre being.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Withano

Shes not even a bloke, what were you saying about misrepresentation?

the gender is irrelevant to me, sadly it isnt to you

[Withano]

Originally Posted by the truth

the gender is irrelevant to me, sadly it isnt to you

Tell that to your 100+ anti-feminist threads, sis.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Withano

You are completely PC when it comes to feminist issues for example. You are completely against freedom of speech when it comes to the left calling the right names for example

Yet you come in to the thread claiming PC is bad and freedom of speech is good

Your argument does not make sense. You have thought for both sides of both topics and claimed that you only feel one way. You don't feel consistently one way, you're very in the middle like most people.

I have no idea if you're just being stubborn or if you genuinely dont understand how contradictory youre being.

youre being contradictory, its the left who always play the race , sexist card from the bottom of the deck in order to try and shut down all debate

[Withano]

Originally Posted by the truth

youre being contradictory, its the left who always play the race , sexist card from the bottom of the deck in order to try and shut down all debate

But even if that was true, as a person that loves freedom of speech as much as you do, you should be okay with this. But you're not, clearly. So stop pretending youre all for freedom of speech lol. Youre more against it than any other person on this thread pretty much.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Withano

But even if that was true, as a person that loves freedom of speech as much as you do, you should be okay with this. But you're not, clearly. So stop pretending youre all for freedom of speech lol. Youre more against it than any other person on this thread pretty much.

lol Youre lying again