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26-04-2017, 04:29 PM | #26 | ||
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he thinks hes santa clause but he aint got magical elves and flying reindeers...oh but hes got a big credit card which will laden us all in debt for the next 100 years
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26-04-2017, 04:31 PM | #27 | ||
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I am cautiously impressed by the passion he is now showing appropriately on strong and important issues. In the referendum,he was weak, then again he was cool as to what happened in it. He will be happy the vote was to leave,he will be happy to negotiate leaving the EU. Out will open doors for him to be able to bring in his idea of how the UK could be,free from rulings of the EU. He maybe cannot win this election but if he started to connect more with a clear passion on what he is advocating, it is not beyond possibility to help being instrumental in removing this govts.overall majority. Mrs May showing the contempt she did as to the people whose questions he put to her today, is likely to help his cause. A fair way to go in this election,winning looks out the question but a small,smaller or loss of the Cons overall majority is possibly achievable. |
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26-04-2017, 04:46 PM | #28 | ||
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I also think Labour will not do well at all in this and will look to a new leader after the election which will be a good thing.I also think he knows this hence why he's fighting. However part of me is kind of rooting for him a little now to see if he can pull something out of the bag and do better than expected. |
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26-04-2017, 04:54 PM | #29 | |||
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The Tory party is very good at talking the talk but their record for keeping their promise is pretty abysmal.
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26-04-2017, 04:58 PM | #30 | |||
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Would that be New Labour? The neoliberal Right dressed up in sheep clothing. New Labour and the Labour we see today are not related; they share no DNA, so I'm not sure why you keep trying to dig up the dirt in an attempt to make comparisons.
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26-04-2017, 05:54 PM | #31 | |||
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By alienating the worst off, they also alienated the opposition.
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26-04-2017, 06:05 PM | #32 | ||
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26-04-2017, 09:08 PM | #33 | ||
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Well, you'd have to be foolish to vote for a party that's actively trying to privatise public services if you use them so yes. The idea of the working and middle classes voting for the Tories is like an immigrant voting for Donald Trump. It's foolishness.
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26-04-2017, 11:00 PM | #34 | ||
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its still labour and labour including corbyn have failed to address their failure with this disastrous 2004 gp contract....they should be trying to overthrow it but theyre not. theyre too busy sucking up for the unions votes
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26-04-2017, 11:03 PM | #35 | ||
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wrong. the tories nhs in england is way ahead in most areas compared to the welsh labour nhs...in england you get results the same day, in wales you can wait 10 weeks for results of eye tests. youd have to be a fool to back the party of bankruptcy, illlegal wars, destruction of civil liberties, free speech , mrsa, record abuses on the nhs, more bankrupt councils, more waste, more doubling. trebling of CEO wages at the councils and ceo's of hospitals and the trebling of the wage bill for nhs middle management....none of whom are medically qualified
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27-04-2017, 05:08 AM | #36 | |||
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What labour never explain is where the money for all this is coming from. It's great to make big sweeping promises but the fact they have to be paid for somehow is why we've just had 6 years of austerity. Still paying for the last labour government.
Tbf the Tories haven't published their manifesto yet. All this about tax hikes is pure speculation until they do.
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27-04-2017, 05:14 AM | #37 | |||
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To claim that Labour has no association with nor responsibility for 'New Labour' is just a fantasy. Many of those still in parliament were right there with Tony Blair, including Jeremy Corbyn who has been an MP since 1974.
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27-04-2017, 06:51 AM | #38 | ||
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Whichever party puts a block on further immigration has my vote. Corbyn with his 'open doors' policy is a disaster waiting to happen. It didn't work for Merkel and it won't work for Labour. Are politicians so out of touch with reality that they don't actually realise when and how they are effectively lighting the touch paper?
I agree that the NHS does need funding, but to the actual people who do the work, not pen pushing management (there's an oxymoron for you) |
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27-04-2017, 07:22 AM | #39 | |||
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27-04-2017, 07:40 AM | #40 | ||
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Never recognising the need and benefits of it is more a damaging stance,than any negatives of immigration itself. Incidentally to Jaxie,I doubt any serious political observer would claim Corbyn was a supporter of Tony Blair, his voting record against the Blair govt.is well documented. New Labour was a silly title anyway,oddly enough for voters however,they flocked to it. |
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Many of us in my family are NHS workers and we have had a front row seat in watching the ruling classes systematically sell off and destroy our National Health Service.
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27-04-2017, 07:44 AM | #42 | ||
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Indeed it is, in at least these last 2 elections particularly it leaves less to understand as to it taking place.
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27-04-2017, 07:59 AM | #43 | |||
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The only way they could follow that preference was to rid the country of creeping socialism and that's why our government puts the world crash squarely on Browns shoulders and the tragic thing is, so many of us bought into that lie.
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27-04-2017, 08:13 AM | #44 | ||
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The Cons felt Labour regulated the banks too much,Howard and Cameron would have then regulated the banks far less. You are right to say that is a lie laid on only Browns and the then govts.shoulders. That crash was coming no matter what any govt.was doing or what Party was in power either,no one in the UK or even across the World in any way really saw it coming at all. Last edited by joeysteele; 27-04-2017 at 08:14 AM. |
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27-04-2017, 11:58 AM | #45 | ||
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27-04-2017, 12:04 PM | #46 | ||
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Brexit is the new immigration in that it's a buzzword to get people to mindlessly vote for whichever candidate is using it and Theresa May is fully aware of that. |
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27-04-2017, 01:22 PM | #47 | |||
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Nobody's suggesting Brown saw the financial brick wall that was approaching but then nobody did. Neither are they suggesting that we should of let banks run like casino’s but that was happening the western world over and ended being a very hard lesson to us all. Regardless of what the Tories tell us, he was the right man at the right time. How Gordon Brown and Mervyn King handled the crisis was nothing short of heroic but whilst King received a knighthood, Brown became person-non-grata.
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