[Captain.Remy]

It is most definitely 41 for whoever graduated with a minimum of knowledge in maths.

[Nicky91]

40+40=80x0=0+1=1

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

It is most definitely 41 for whoever graduated with a minimum of knowledge in maths.

That is a bit rude to be honest. Yes I agree the answer is 41, but I don’t think BODMAS/BIDMAS is used in everyday life.. people will not have ever have revisited this since they were 14... Equations are never set out like this, hence why they ‘trick’ people.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

40+40=80x0=0+1=1

I've done that one, they're not having it. Something about DUMBASS

[Nicky91]

OH WAIT now i get it


40 (40x0=0) 40+1=41


this is one sort of tricky task they should include in the mole, here you definitely can mole really well in, and you wouldn't notice it

[Toy Soldier]

I'm baffled that anyone over the age of 15 doesn't know that the answer is 41 .

40 + (40 x 0) + 1.

Come on guyz.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

That is a bit rude to be honest. Yes I agree the answer is 41, but I don’t think BODMAS/BIDMAS is used in everyday life.. people will not have ever have revisited this since they were 14... Equations are never set out like this, hence why they ‘trick’ people.

You are right DouglasS...it is rude. Never heard of BODMAS and I still got my 0 Level in Maths...

[Cal.]

41 loov

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'm baffled that anyone over the age of 15 doesn't know that the answer is 41 .

40 + (40 x 0) + 1.

Come on guyz.

But there are no brackets in the original equation...so at face value the answer is 1

[James]

I said 1 because of the lack of brackets.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by James

I said 1 because of the lack of brackets.

Yes James...that makes us right

[LeatherTrumpet]

Notes:
- these rules have changed over the last few decades
- there is still some confusion about 1/3x
- computer software does the order of operations several different ways
- calculators do the order of operations several different ways
- even the symbols may be different -- for example: *, **, ^, /, ÷

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by James

I said 1 because of the lack of brackets.

Same.

[UserSince2005]

Are you smarter than a 5th grader?

[LeatherTrumpet]

I was in the thicko class for maths. I sat next to a guy called Fraser Crow and he had "suck that" tattooed to his chest with an arrow to his nipple. He also used to smoke in music and the teacher was to afraid to stop him. Also in that class was a chap called Broony who died in 5th year from being sick when mortal drunk and he asphyxiated.

[James]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Notes:
- these rules have changed over the last few decades
- there is still some confusion about 1/3x
- computer software does the order of operations several different ways
- calculators do the order of operations several different ways
- even the symbols may be different -- for example: *, **, ^, /, ÷

I was never taught 'BIDMAS' as far as I remember. Brackets first, yes.

[Jake.]

41 because of the lack of brackets

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by James

I was never taught 'BIDMAS' as far as I remember. Brackets first, yes.

no i have never heard of it but smallest boy LT knew it straight away

[Toy Soldier]

Nothing has changed. By the order of operations, you multiply/divide before you add/subtract. There is no alternative way of doing it, the answer is 41.

Brackets being first is to show when you SHOULD add before you multiply, the multiplication does not have to be in brackets to be done first.

e.g.

40 + 40 x 0 + 1 = 41
(40 + 40) x 0 + 1 = 1
40 + 40 x (0 + 1) = 80

Order of operations and brackets matter for different reasons.

The answer without the brackets being present is, again, 41.

If a calculator or computer programme gives the left-to-right answer (which is 1) It's because its a cheap calculator that hasn't been programmed to do order of operations properly. Full stop. It's not a bloody debate

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Jake.

41 because of the lack of brackets

You’ve still got to do multiplication and division before addition and subtraction brackets or no brackets.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Nothing has changed. By the order of operations, you multiply/divide before you add/subtract. There is no alternative way of doing it, the answer is 41.

Brackets being first is to show when you SHOULD add before you multiply, the multiplication does not have to be in brackets to be done first.

e.g.

40 + 40 x 0 + 1 = 41
(40 + 40) x 0 + 1 = 1
40 + 40 x (0 + 1) = 80

Order of operations and brackets matter for different reasons.

The answer without the brackets being present is, again, 41.

If a calculator or computer programme gives the left-to-right answer (which is 1) It's because its a cheap calculator that hasn't been programmed to do order of operations properly. Full stop. It's not a bloody debate

Stick to betting odds.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Alf

Stick to betting odds.

Don't be salty that I understand maths better than you do Alf... I understand most things better than you do so it's just business as usual.

[Toy Soldier]

To further clarify - official order of operations with the acronyms has been around since the early 20th century. The basic rule that you multiply before you add and subtract has been around since the conception of basic maths rules going back literally thousands of years.

How are people acting like they weren't taught it in the 70's/80's/90's

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Don't be salty that I understand maths better than you do Alf... I understand most things better than you do so it's just business as usual.

You are an under 5, compared to me.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Alf

You are an under 5, compared to me.

Everyone is an under 5 compared to you, Alf