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Old 27-08-2010, 12:16 AM #51
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If you think it's expensive now it will be far more expensive after a shop keeper or the NHS adds all the overheads on top of it.

Secondly, there are numerous health risks associated with it.

Thirdly, it's another thing to keep the destitute and lower ends of society right there... all drugged up with no aspirations to improve their life.

Fourthly, on top of thirdly, it stops anybody from finding something better to do with their lives. It's an addiction for the immobile.

Fifth, there is too much pseudo-cultural attachments to Marijuana from Reggae to hedonism to liberalism to Rastafarianism that people think they can excuse themselves from anything because they have a certain lifestyle. It's just another way of dragging yourself down in that way.

Sixth, Some recent studies state it does call mental health problems from psychosis to mood disorders, schizophrenia is common too. A lot of pro-cannabis groups try and use older less established studies to state this isn't the case but causal relationships have been found.

Seventh, it is a political and economic tool. In Portugal, Holland and some states of the US, politicians use it to gain votes in the same way it was stated in the fifth comment, to associate themselves with vulnerable groups which inadvertently brings money into the common but makes the stupid voter believe what they are doing benefits them but just keeps the wrong people in power.

Eight, it's a drug that is globally used, because it grows easily, to traffic children, sex workers, slaves, drugs and also arms around the world. For the Taliban and Al Qaeda, it is the second drug of choice when acquiring arms. Eventually as they sell drugs around the middle east, this money trickles through to arms traffickers in the west and in the UK and therefore supplies this economy.

Ninth, with immigration increasing and related to the Eighth point, a lot of these problems have appeared in our cities and in some towns and villages of our country which leads to them financing the trafficking of not only drugs but slaves, cheap workers up and down the country.

Tenth, and an important one, it is used alongside the "war on drugs" narrative and by that liberal groups say the war on drugs will never stop... but that's not the point is it. How do you control a mass of people looking for ways to cope with life and the problems inherent in life. So the war on drugs isn't the issue, it's people problems which relates to numerous points above.

Eleventh, drug use is common in prisons and the reason most people go to prison. Legalising it will just raise this problems as it has done in Holland, Portugal and the US as people from Canada, Mexico, North Africa, Spain, Scandinavia and England, enter these countries to makes use of the lax laws in order to fund other crimes upon addicts. When people talk of a gateway drug, a) it is a gateway drug but b) it also finance and encourages the use of other drugs in communities that inherently increase crime in order to fund or encourage drug cultures.

Twelfth, Further from the mental health strain there are also physical problems in smoking Cannabis. Not only on the lungs and the heart but also the breakdown of DNA by the oxidisation of chemicals inside cells which combat disease. As this leads to problems for an individuals children as well as they grow up with a weaker immune system in line with the mental health problems it creates a time bomb for mental health issues with kids as well where the susceptibility to mood disorders and psychosis is rife amongst poorer less privileged communities.

Thirteenth, and related to the point about cultures and poorer communities, it is a widely used drug and encouraged between numerous groups. Even the upper classes smoke it as well... most of these drugs are skunk, grown through hydroponics and the ease of access has caused it to be passed around. The dependency on the drug is problematic as people who only see a glimmer of an individual who sells it doesn't see the inherent problems it brings on society and their family because it becomes the norm and behaviours become the norm. These studies on society go back to 19th Century and were pre-cursors to psycho-analysis.

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So no... it shouldn't be legalised but people who have got used to a life with it, unfortunately, would want it legalised and that's a shame in a world of so much opportunity and need for nothing, some of us fall fowl of drugs and even become advocates of it without even noticing how much it ruins our lives.
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If you think it's expensive now it will be far more expensive after a shop keeper or the NHS adds all the overheads on top of it.
It wouldn't be long until Tesco do a buy one get one free offer.



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Secondly, there are numerous health risks associated with it.

As there are with Fags,beer,deodorant etc.



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Thirdly, it's another thing to keep the destitute and lower ends of society right there... all drugged up with no aspirations to improve their life.
People like George Michal,Jay Z,woody Harrison,Barbra Streisand etc


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Fourthly, on top of thirdly, it stops anybody from finding something better to do with their lives. It's an addiction for the immobile.
Lets add Michael Phelps,Jennifer Capriati etc to the list.

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Fifth, there is too much pseudo-cultural attachments to Marijuana from Reggae to hedonism to liberalism to Rastafarianism that people think they can excuse themselves from anything because they have a certain lifestyle. It's just another way of dragging yourself down in that way.
You're living in the 70's!

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Sixth, Some recent studies state it does call mental health problems from psychosis to mood disorders, schizophrenia is common too. A lot of pro-cannabis groups try and use older less established studies to state this isn't the case but causal relationships have been found
And smoking can cause cancer,ban it?Burgers can cause obesity,ban them?


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Seventh, it is a political and economic tool. In Portugal, Holland and some states of the US, politicians use it to gain votes in the same way it was stated in the fifth comment, to associate themselves with vulnerable groups which inadvertently brings money into the common but makes the stupid voter believe what they are doing benefits them but just keeps the wrong people in power.
As is Oil,ban it?


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Eight, it's a drug that is globally used, because it grows easily, to traffic children, sex workers, slaves, drugs and also arms around the world. For the Taliban and Al Qaeda, it is the second drug of choice when acquiring arms. Eventually as they sell drugs around the middle east, this money trickles through to arms traffickers in the west and in the UK and therefore supplies this economy.
If it was legalised this would know longer happen.A bit like prohibition.


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Ninth, with immigration increasing and related to the Eighth point, a lot of these problems have appeared in our cities and in some towns and villages of our country which leads to them financing the trafficking of not only drugs but slaves, cheap workers up and down the country.
See answer Eight.


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Tenth, and an important one, it is used alongside the "war on drugs" narrative and by that liberal groups say the war on drugs will never stop... but that's not the point is it. How do you control a mass of people looking for ways to cope with life and the problems inherent in life. So the war on drugs isn't the issue, it's people problems which relates to numerous points above.
I don't really get your point maybe this can of fosters has gone to my head,ban it?


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Eleventh, drug use is common in prisons and the reason most people go to prison. Legalising it will just raise this problems
Don't be silly,if it was legalised you wouldn't get sent to prison!


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Twelfth, Further from the mental health strain there are also physical problems in smoking Cannabis. Not only on the lungs and the heart but also the breakdown of DNA by the oxidisation of chemicals inside cells which combat disease. As this leads to problems for an individuals children as well as they grow up with a weaker immune system in line with the mental health problems it creates a time bomb for mental health issues with kids as well where the susceptibility to mood disorders and psychosis is rife amongst poorer less privileged communities.
Yawn,yawn.Think Alcohol and tobacco.


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Thirteenth, and related to the point about cultures and poorer communities, it is a widely used drug and encouraged between numerous groups. Even the upper classes smoke it as well... most of these drugs are skunk, grown through hydroponics and the ease of access has caused it to be passed around. The dependency on the drug is problematic as people who only see a glimmer of an individual who sells it doesn't see the inherent problems it brings on society and their family because it becomes the norm and behaviours become the norm. These studies on society go back to 19th Century and were pre-cursors to psycho-analysis.
You're contradicting a few of your earlier comments with this.

I bid you goodnight.

Now,Where is my bong?
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It wouldn't be long until Tesco do a buy one get one free offer.

You're contradicting a few of your earlier comments with this.

I bid you goodnight.

Now,Where is my bong?

You just don't grasp what is being said.

Everybody needs something to mother.

Mine isn't Cannabis.

Well done... you found a way to sedate yourself.

Is it really that special or is it all you have?
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Is it really that special or is it all you have?
It's that special.Chill man.
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No, I don't think it should.. See Massive Truck's reasons for why I don't

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